Gun Combat= No movement, very stationary when shooting

[Dreamcast]

So I been comparing this game for killzone 2 for a while...One thing they have in common is the fact how stationary targets are when they shoot.



All the planetside 2 footage shows people standing shooting at eachother or just moving forward shooting.


I don't see people moving side to side at all which is something the original planetside had and a couple of other games futuristic games have....

I guess it can be attributed to lower TTK but other games like COD(inb4 the elitist) that have way lower ttk, actually have alot of side movement and overall movement when shooting.


So do you guys like this minimal movement when shooting?....I guess it means accuracy is very important so is not good to move and shoot....It could also mean that the A and D movement keys move slow to either right or left direction.


I like killzone 2 so is not a big problem for me but knowing how Planetside 1 was, with people moving side to side when they shot....it kind of makes me think if it will be best if their was more movement.




Cliff notes

A and D key movements seem non existant in planetside 2
W and S key movements seem to be very minimal

[The noob]

Until I get my hands on it, it's difficult to judge whether it's something you have to do, or something that Totalbiscuit and a few of the other testers did out of habit. Also, isn't this topic exactly like your Killzone topic? You probably could have kept it there.

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by The noob

Until I get my hands on it, it's difficult to judge whether it's something you have to do, or something that Totalbiscuit and a few of the other testers did out of habit. Also, isn't this topic exactly like your Killzone topic? You probably could have kept it there.

No Im talking about the movement...I personally think is like killzone 2.


I made a new thread because I havn't seen many people talking about this, and I think this is one of the biggest changes to the game.

[MacXXcaM]

No, I don't like it. It takes a whole amount of skill and funny firefights out and makes it somewhat bf3/cod-boring.
We surely need a longer ttk.

[The noob]

Originally Posted by Dreamcast

No Im talking about the movement...I personally think is like killzone 2.


I made a new thread because I havn't seen many people talking about this, and I think this is one of the biggest changes to the game.

While it's been a while since I've played Killzone 2, I don't really remember staying stationary all that often. Even when I was in my iron sights I'd often move around to try to throw people's aims off, even if it meant losing some accuracy.

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by The noob

While it's been a while since I've played Killzone 2, I don't really remember staying stationary all that often. Even when I was in my iron sights I'd often move around to try to throw people's aims off, even if it meant losing some accuracy.

Some people I saw in killzone 2 didn't move side to side but I think your right...I just remember the game being slow, the side to side..I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by MacXXcaM

No, I don't like it. It takes a whole amount of skill and funny firefights out and makes it somewhat bf3/cod-boring.
We surely need a longer ttk.

Well to be fair COD Gun combat movement is very fast...People are always moving when shooting....Also COD has way lower TTK than Planetside so is not entirely the TTK fault.


I think the reason is that the developers think Accuracy>Movement....Seems like accuracy is gonna be vary important so less movement will be better....if you move to much the accuracy will probably be horrible...


Also Im betting the A and D keyboard keys move slow

[MacXXcaM]

Originally Posted by Dreamcast

Well to be fair COD Gun combat movement is very fast...People are always moving when shooting....Also COD has way lower TTK than Planetside so is not entirely the TTK fault.

No, but it's boring because it prevents firefights from happening. You see someone, shoot at him, either of you is dead.

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by MacXXcaM

No, but it's boring because it prevents firefights from happening. You see someone, shoot at him, either of you is dead.

I guess but if Planetside 2 had longer TTK and the accuracy of your gun sucks if you move...and A+D key movement keys are slow...Then it will still be the game style of gun play we have seen so far in the video's.

So TTK could be somewhat at fault but is more the style of gameplay the developers are doing.

[MacXXcaM]

I don't know what to vote on. Planetside's movement is not too slow, it's about fine. It's the TTK that messes it up basically.

[Toppopia]

I want to beable to get an implant or some ability like in MW3 that lets me move a bit faster while ADS, because thats how i play FPS, i always try to aim down the sight as much as possible because i will have a higher chance of killing the enemy before he kills me, and because i normally have 200ms ping so i need any advantage i can get. Because hip firing never seems to work out well so i always avoid it as much as possible.

[Elude]

Many of the players in the alpha footage are AI driven specifically for testing reasons.

[Mechzz]

Originally Posted by Elude

Many of the players in the alpha footage are AI driven specifically for testing reasons.

Yeah, especially "aclegg"

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by Elude

Many of the players in the alpha footage are AI driven specifically for testing reasons.

Makes sense...I was gonna say in the OP "or maybe the testers just suck and don't A/D keyboard move"

[Graywolves]

I'm hoping for something that feels unique.

[The noob]

Frankly, I believe that SOE should attempt to find a balance between firing while moving, and firing while stationary and/or in ADS. Firing while moving should offer its own upsides and downsides compared to firing while stationary or in ADS, such as decrease in accuracy, while of course increase in survivabilty due to moving alot more, while stationary and ADS should offer the same as well, such as increased accuracy, possibly a minor zoom while in ADS, but of course at the cost of survivalbility (since stationary targets are easier to hit). One should not dominate over the other.

Firing while moving should not be so powerful that you have people running around gunning people down like as if it's a shooter in the vein of arena shooters, but not so weak that you must go into ADS to even have a chance of hitting someone, stationary and ADS should not be so weak that going into either is a useless, deadly endeavor, but using them should not be so needed that the only way of hitting someone in a firefight is going stationary and/or going into ADS. I honestly don't know how such balance could be achieved however. Basically, they have their own areas they are strong and weak in, one or the other shouldn't be strong at everything.