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View Poll Results: What should the Devs Focus on first?
Sandbox persistent World only...no PVE or Arenas 97 79.51%
Arena/PVE Only....E sports FTW! 1 0.82%
Sandbox Persistent world...PVE and Arena maybe later 19 15.57%
Arena/PVE....Then focus on Sandbox 0 0%
Sandbox persistent world...Pve along side PVP later 5 4.10%
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Old 2012-06-28, 01:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Sandbox Persistent World vs PvE and Arenas


This is what is going to come down to.


The developing team is only so big so they are going to have to use their resources for only one of these things most likely.


So what do you guys want the Dev team to focus on?



Personally I want them to focus on a Sandbox persistent World, I want them to expand the Massive Warfare to Space with Starships and moon battles.

I want them to make outfits have more power and give empires have more consequences if they lose....I want Empire related continents...I want to raid a starship with troops etc.


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Do you want PVE and Arena type server games with 50 vs 50 players...playing in their own little world?


I could see a PVE continent or planet working if is along side a PVP and part of the persistent world....no dumb horde mode crap.



So what do you guys want the devs to focus on?
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Old 2012-06-28, 01:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I'm going to let someone else handle this one
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Old 2012-06-28, 01:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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I totally expect a bittervet bias on this poll. However I will hopefully break that by being the first vote with "Sandbox Persistent world...PVE and Arena maybe later"
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Old 2012-06-28, 01:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Last thing I want is any sort of PvE. Waste of development time. I wouldn't mind seeing some kind of instanced PvP for outfits to go up against each other every now and then. However I don't want real match making to the point it becomes a true style of instanced gaming or a true alternative to the MMO part of the game. I'm all for a Sandbox type of game eventually as they stated thats were it may go. I would prefer keeping it at most a FPS centered one with maybe EVE like qualities.
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Old 2012-06-28, 01:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Fighting on a asteroid or moon that has lower gravity could be fun. Blow someone up and watch their corpse blast clear off the rock and into space... of course, in this scenario I would have a great view of said rock while I drift away...

SOE is part of the Sony Playstation umbrella. Compared to just about any other MMO studio, SOE have the resources to do whatever they could possibly imagine, so I am not limiting them to the choices put forth in this poll.
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Old 2012-06-28, 02:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Arena/PVE Only. Just cause.
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Old 2012-06-28, 02:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Missed the choice of Sandbox first, and arena maybe later without any kind of PvE.
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Old 2012-06-28, 02:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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The sandbox persistent world with whatever it may include, hands down. Build on that and there's no telling where the game might end up. So many possibilities!

Speaking of adding things... a little OT this. But I tihnk developers shouldn't be afraid of taking things they've added (in patches or expansions and stuff like that) out of the game completely again if it isn't working well in world.

Typed a whole lot more on that, but I'm not going to hijack the thread so.. I took it out ;P
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Old 2012-06-28, 02:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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i wouldn't mind arenas too much as long as it doesn't detract from the sandbox pvp and honestly the only pve i could see working is maybe having a random base on the front line be taken over by a grey faction and which ever empire gets it back first get a boost of resources from it for a day or two

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Old 2012-06-28, 02:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Senyu View Post
I'm going to let someone else handle this one
Might as well have a go at it since Dreamcast hasn't read the other threads on these subjects.

Originally Posted by Dreamcast View Post
Personally I want them to focus on a Sandbox persistent World, I want them to expand the Massive Warfare to Space with Starships and moon battles.
Separating anything from the core continents is a failed idea. They tried it with the caves and battle islands and players did not enjoy it. Anything that removes the trinity of infantry, ground, and air is not possible. You cannot remove playstyles from the game and that's what space combat would do. It creates specialized areas that require new vehicles and other gameplay elements and adds very little to the core game.

This is actually the same idea why naval combat would never work in the game.

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Do you want PVE and Arena type server games with 50 vs 50 players...playing in their own little world?
These are two separate concepts. I've probably been one of the strongest opponents of PvE. The community is nearly 100% against NPC based PvE (where players are fighting non player AI). The core game is PVP centric, and adding combat that pulls players away from that is detrimental to the gameplay.

Arena based gameplay where outfits fight each other has a few threads now. Bringing that up again here would be a waste of time.

Originally Posted by Dreamcast View Post
I could see a PVE continent or planet working if is along side a PVP and part of the persistent world....no dumb horde mode crap.
Most people that want this don't refer to it as PvE. That has the connotation of getting experience or rewards for killing the wildlife. Refer to the creatures and wildlife threads for a rundown of people's basic ideas for this.

// edit, also thanks for making another worthless poll with biased answers. Can't even vote in it without supporting someone's pre-existing definition of PvE.

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Old 2012-06-28, 02:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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not interested at all in PvE and arenas
im playing planetside for the big sandbox :P
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Old 2012-06-28, 02:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Your poll is invalid. There is no "none of the above" option.

I definitely don't want to see PvE.

I don't think Arenas would complement the core game mechanics, and I don't want core game mechanics or balance issues upset by catering to arena mechanics.

I don't think "persistent sandbox" play is really relevant or interesting, unless you include erecting destroyable cover and turrets via the engineer class "sandbox play." The last thing I want to see is big outfits deploying bases and then refusing to fight anywhere else because they need to defend their base. If what you mean by "sandbox" is following our own goals and objectives without quest-style tasks... well, we've already got that.

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Old 2012-06-28, 02:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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What I really want to see is PvP arenas in Little Big Planet. Because, it makes sense in the context of what kind of game that is.

Right?
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Old 2012-06-28, 02:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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PVP Sandbox first and foremost. That IS Planetside.

However, a couple of years down the road, I can see a place for "arenas". An example of something like this would be the Trafalgar, Spillway, and Seaside maps from Global Agenda (except bigger to acomidate 600 players 3x200). Winning these smaller maps could net global benefits and be a stage for real e-sport events.




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Old 2012-06-28, 02:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Can't say I'm a fan of the poll options, so I'll chime in with my .02 cents. First off I just want to say that I never want to see PvE. It's an MMOFPS and fighting against real players will always be far more exciting than than shooting NPCs. Second, I wouldn't mind arenas being added at a later date, but having said that I do not want them to ever take precedence over the persistent open world and large scale battles.

I think arenas would be a nice addition to have, for example, for outfits on the same faction to duke it out. It's not unheard of for clans/guilds/outfits to have rivalry among each other, and arenas would be a good outlet for that rivalry without racking up the grief points. But at the same time if they were never added in, I wouldn't be crushed.

To iterate, when I play Planetside 2, I play for massive battles and the persistent world. If I want to play an esport or arena style shooter, I'll play a game that's specialized for it.
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