Infiltrator scope / sights

[fedhell]

Hello everybody,

This is my first post here, i usually just lurk, but I cant find the information im looking for anywhere so i hope you all can help me :-)

While watching the 3 days of gameplay with totalbiscut, all of the snipers i saw had very large scopes that took all of the screen, and blacked the rest. I love to snipe (i play Blacklight Retribution while waiting for PS2 beta), but the way that I snipe is with like a 3x or 4x sight, not necessarily a full scope.

This video is the sight style on a sniper that i love

And this one is the style that we saw at E3, that i cant stand

So ultimately i was wondering if anybody knows if we can put a "sight" on our sniper rifle, instead of a full "scope".

Thanks in advance,

-Fedhell

[Electrofreak]

Originally Posted by fedhell

Hello everybody,

This is my first post here, i usually just lurk, but I cant find the information im looking for anywhere so i hope you all can help me :-)

While watching the 3 days of gameplay with totalbiscut, all of the snipers i saw had very large scopes that took all of the screen, and blacked the rest. I love to snipe (i play Blacklight Retribution while waiting for PS2 beta), but the way that I snipe is with like a 3x or 4x sight, not necessarily a full scope.

This video is the sight style on a sniper that i love
ShocKeD || Guy From Space || Blacklight Retribution Montage (HQ) - YouTube

And this one is the style that we saw at E3, that i cant stand
//Blacklight Retribution\\PiiDGEOT//Sniper Run through Gameplay with Bolt Action\\- YouTube

So ultimately i was wondering if anybody knows if we can put a "sight" on our sniper rifle, instead of a full "scope".

Thanks in advance,

-Fedhell

They've told us like a million times how customizeable everything is, and I remember watching a vid (great, now I'm going to be digging for the link) where they mentioned that you could even put a scope on a shotgun if you wanted, even though it would be relatively worthless.

So in short, it's very likely you'll be able to put whatever scope you want on your sniper rifle.

Edit - Here it is. Check this video out:

[Rasui]

Yeah, quick scoping in close combat is not sniping. I can do without that bs in planetside, thanks.

[Furber]

I don't snipe very much, but I'm sure they will have different scopes that support different game play styles.

[Solidblock]

That wasn't sniping, but I get what you mean. Yes, you can do that. If CoD and Battlefield 3 let you put those scopes on, then I'm sure PS2 will.

[MrKWalmsley]

Quick scoping is fucking horrendous. And if that is how you play you have absolutely no right to say that you are a sniper. You're a glorified shot-gunner.

[fedhell]

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

Quick scoping is fucking horrendous. And if that is how you play you have absolutely no right to say that you are a sniper. You're a glorified shot-gunner.

Im not sure why you hate quickscoping. I find it the best of both worlds. I can preform at short med and long ranges. A shotty really falls off at med long, where as the sniper in vid 1 has quite the range. Its enjoyable, quite the rush, as if you miss the first bullet at med/close your probably dead. It does take skill.

Please elaboriate why its so bad.

-Fedhell


EDIT: Ive also recorded a video of me playing blacklight retribution soo ill add that below so you can see that i dont really play it like running around with a shotty. Unlike the first vid i still like to hold my range. Please ignore my voice it sounds horrible recorded :-(.

[Otleaz]

Originally Posted by fedhell

Im not sure why you hate quickscoping. I find it the best of both worlds. I can preform at short med and long ranges. A shotty really falls off at med long, where as the sniper in vid 1 has quite the range. Its enjoyable, quite the rush, as if you miss the first bullet at med/close your probably dead. It does take skill.

Please elaboriate why its so bad.

-Fedhell

Not only does it kill immersion for everyone involved, it is exploiting quality of life mechanics to make an easy kill.

And yes, it is damn easy. The only reason you don't see more people doing it is because they feel like douchebags when they try.

[Winfernal]

I guess having "xX1337quiCkScopeZghettoshotgun fragmovies" for PS2 is inevitable.

[MrKWalmsley]

Originally Posted by fedhell

I can preform at short med and long ranges. A shotty really falls off at med long, where as the sniper in vid 1 has quite the range.

Oh god it really went over your head didn't it? Snipers don't perform at all at med or short ranges unless using a pistol. And if you think even the greatest distance in Blacklight or most of FPS's actually count as long range then I'd like to inform you they don't, they class as medium range at most.

If you are one shotting people at that kind of range you are not a sniper, you are a combat marksman, and if you are shooting people at close combat with it, it is practically a slug shotgun. Ergo, practically nothing you did can be classed as sniping.

And as a person who used to quick-scope in CoD all the time, I hate it because it actually takes no skill, particularly when aiming down sights automatically locks onto a nearby target. All you have to do is get your cross-hair somewhere near to the target and go into your sights and the auto-aim does the rest. It just made it far too easy, and being a fan of a challenge I stopped doing it and turned to conventional "sniping".

[fedhell]

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

if you think even the greatest distance in Blacklight or most of FPS's actually count as long range then I'd like to inform you they don't, they class as medium range at most.

What game do you suggest i try then to get a feel for 'sniping'? Im willing to try here. I enjoy the rifle. Not looking to start the a flame war, i think if you look at the video of me playing blacklight you will see i dont play it like you think i do.

-Fedhell

[TAA]

[MrKWalmsley]

Originally Posted by fedhell

What game do you suggest i try then to get a feel for 'sniping'? Im willing to try here. I enjoy the rifle. Not looking to start the a flame war, i think if you look at the video of me playing blacklight you will see i dont play it like you think i do.

-Fedhell

Sorry if I sounded a bit like a bastard. And yeah I did realise a difference but that other guy was still running around with it like a shotty. I wouldn't really class what you were doing as quick scoping though, it seemed you only did it when you happened to be caught off-guard which is fair enough.

Anyways if you want to try out some proper sniping I'd suggest Project Reality mod for BF2. It's not the prettiest game but it sure as hell has great gameplay.

Here's a bit of sniping in it although some of it would be considered on the border between long and medium range.

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[Stew]

In a base youll be able to own people with a snipers and a 4x scope wihout any problems your suposed to be able to change every scopes like BF3 !

So dont worry about that

[Jonny]

To OP. The game your playing (i've not heard of it before) does look fun and I'm one that likes twitch reaction shooting in certain fps weapons. However, I would say that style of "sniping" wont suit planetside 2.

First of all the looking down scope animation is so fast i'm suprised the character doesn't put it through his skull each time. This fast scope is probably part of the game design, seeing as you have a wall hack as part of the game also. If you know where everyone is all the time, it comes down to fast scope quick reaction times to denote who wins.

Having a long range powerful weapon which scopes that fast would, I imagine, be overpowered for the infiltrator. At the same time though, you don't want it being too slow. I imagine this is something we can all give feedback on once the beta has started