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Old 2012-07-26, 11:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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I am adamantly opposed to those fascist TR, but I honestly can't decide between the NC and VS.

The NC have robust military gear, very appropriate for territorial conflict. But I'm not sure I can support a cause without a goal. Especially one that refuses to coexist with those that would rather be let be. Even by the TR's arguement oligarchy is still a cultural step up from totalitarianism. I.E. Look at Rome's history; From King's to a Republic, which is still an oligarchy of sorts.

Then I look at the VS and see a very tactically versatile group. Especially with that unfortunately soon to be nerfed Scythe. The Scythe and the Magrider are both very intriguing pieces. I'm familiar with the magrider's style due to 2142's Nekomato hover tank. I liked it and hated it. But then lore wise they remind me way too much of the Byzantines. I mean they even freaking wear PURPLE! Purple-philia, combined with an obsession with the past to predict the future both point to eventual stagnation and collapse. That combined with the Scientologyesque vibes I get from their naysaysers They still feel off.

So then I am left to decide which do I value more, Freedom or Progress?

I'm not sure I truly care for progress without freedom, too Naziesque. (They made considerable technological advancements despite the hellishness of some of their actions) But then freedom without aim leads to anarchy which is the antithesis and not a true resolution to the conflict.

I'm leaning VS but cant's say I don't want to go NC either.

(I'm going with pick a faction for it's lore and stick with it, to add a bit of RP immersion to my gameplay and start off with a little of that PS-style Pride )

Sorry if this is the wrong forum.
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Old 2012-07-26, 11:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I can tell you right now you're going to have an easier time getting along with the Vanu players based on the intelligent mind I'm seeing in this post.

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Old 2012-07-26, 11:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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To be fair, the TR is a true democracy. If there were ever any tyrannical laws in the last 1000 years it's because that's what the people chose. The New Conglomerate, the way I see it, is the real "evil" faction here because those corporate CEOs and mercenaries and pirates are looking to plunge Auraxis into anarchy, where it's basically like the Caldari from EVE: there is no state- just the people with the biggest guns.

I was on the fence between TR and VS for a while when I realized that the TR are simply erring on the side of caution when it comes to this alien technology. I think they'll deal with it when they don't have a massive civil war on their hands, but the VS, with their audacious and greedy absorption of alien tech, threaten to decimate the humyn population of Auraxis if not the entire species.
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Old 2012-07-26, 11:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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I'd say you are putting way to much thought into it, but then I'd be lying. Seeking out an empire based on looks and gear alone isn't really the way to immerse yourself in that empire since you will be surrounded by people who are going to do exactly that.

But it goes to show how well they planned out the empire ideology. Every side has good and bad aspects and there's always something that keeps you second guessing until you find what you like and stick to it. Then the positive points become super important and the negative points about everyone become blatantly obvious and terrible.

PS: Go VS. We got the tech, the style, and the sexy cloaker chicks!
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Old 2012-07-26, 11:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I see your point, but the martial law bit combined with being cut off from the rest of humanity make me scared of the space nazis rp wise.
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Old 2012-07-26, 11:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally Posted by Sephirex View Post
I can tell you right now you're going to have an easier time getting along with the Vanu players based on the intelligent mind I'm seeing in this post.

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Old 2012-07-26, 11:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by Blackwolf View Post
I'd say you are putting way to much thought into it, but then I'd be lying. Seeking out an empire based on looks and gear alone isn't really the way to immerse yourself in that empire since you will be surrounded by people who are going to do exactly that.

But it goes to show how well they planned out the empire ideology. Every side has good and bad aspects and there's always something that keeps you second guessing until you find what you like and stick to it. Then the positive points become super important and the negative points about everyone become blatantly obvious and terrible.

PS: Go VS. We got the tech, the style, and the sexy cloaker chicks!
Ohhhh sexy cloaker chicks /totallyanonwomanizingjoke
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Old 2012-07-26, 11:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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The TR is not fascist, they just have to keep control. There was a vote regarding the curfews, and it passed, narrowly. Later on the President of the expedition was killed on the way to Auraxis when a second vote was done. Had the curfews been in place earlier, he would have been alive when we reached Auraxis, and he could have kept us united.

The same mistake will not happen again, we will have law and order before the elections can be prepared, or the NC/VS will only use the moment to strike.

If you still do not wish to join the TR, I would personally prefer the VS. The NC are clearly led by the corporations, even though they use "freedom" to motivate the common man. The VS got some nice technology, and they could advance very far, if they do not screw up. Which they are likely to.
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Old 2012-07-26, 11:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Sephirex View Post
I can tell you right now you're going to have an easier time getting along with the Vanu players based on the intelligent mind I'm seeing in this post.

Join us.
This. Most NC I see around here don't know their butt from their elbow. I mean...Look at Higby! He's NC and he's bloody everywhere. Yet we have T-Ray as out spokesman. He's as cool as the cool side of the pillow!

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The TR is not fascist
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The same mistake will not happen again, we will have law and order before the elections can be prepared, or the NC/VS will only use the moment to strike.
Uh huh....
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Old 2012-07-26, 11:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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I've yet to see anyone truly try and persuade me, besides "You'll get along and sexy infil chicks"

Though the TR guy is goign about it the right way, Blah space nazi martial law!
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Old 2012-07-26, 11:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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You can not honestly believe that elections in the current state of Auraxis would ever work, can you? The corporate masters of the NC would try to stop it at any cost, terror is likely to be their weapon. Motivating their volunteers with lies that the elections would be rigged, and their mercenaries with gold, together they would wreak havoc.

Nobody knows what the VS is going to do, but I bet they will get involved as well.

Breaking the rebels and winning this war is key to the freedom we all wish we can have, and the freedom we will have when victory is ours.
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Old 2012-07-27, 12:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I'll tell you what I tell everyone who is on the fence about what faction to pick: It's your decision to make and no one else's. Don't let people sway you (you'll find a lot of vocal Vanu who try to make you drink the koolaid). I would try them all out and see what playstyle you fit into. It's all about freedom, man.

Also, looking at the official story, I think the only faction that "wants to be left alone" are the NC. The TR and the VS are the aggressors. From a lore standpoint, NC is the closest to morally justifiable, imo.

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Old 2012-07-27, 12:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Want persuasion?

Want to shoot fast? TR
Want to hit hard? NC
Want to have hover tanks and laser weapons? VS

Otherwise, go look up the story to Planetside 1 and decide that way.
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Old 2012-07-27, 12:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by PhoenixDog View Post
Want persuasion?

Want to shoot fast? TR
Want to hit hard? NC
Want to have hover tanks and laser weapons? VS

Otherwise, go look up the story to Planetside 1 and decide that way.
What's wrong with the story to PS2?
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Old 2012-07-27, 12:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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I don't want it based on gameply, I want my choice based on lore, I'm jsut stuck on Progress vs Freedom.
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