Time. Money. Planetside.

[Feign]

Anyone else think that this game is simply not going to be ready for the 20th release date? To have it on the shelves on that day they would have to finish working on it by the 13th at the latest right? That would mean this is the last week to finish everything.

They have a LOT of fixing and balancing to do in that time. If they plan on doing everything AFTER they release then I guess I wont be picking up a copy for some time. Where are all the command features? Where is everything that is supposed to be implemented? Why does it still crash every 15 minutes!?

I dont mind buying a game and then paying a monthly fee for additional content and such, but the game I buy should be worth it on its own first. It seems that the people who shell out for the game in the beginning are going to be funding its initial development still. Its like a massive pay to play beta. We are so close to the end now that we should basically be playing on gold code. Even if they were to manage to add and change everything by the end of the week we wouldnt even have the time to test it.

Their window for capturing peoples interest will be narrow with so many big games on the horizon, (Half Life 2!?) so I do understand why they want to get it out there as soon as they can. Releasing with an unfinished game has been the beginning and the end of so many MMOG's already though, I hope they dont fall to the same fate.

Maybe they have some super patch all but ready to go which will fix all the bugs and add all the content but if not I hope they are seriously considering holding off the release until the game is at much more of a "complete" stage.

If the game is released as it currently stands I would not be purchasing it until it becomes what it is supposed to be, and if something else should take my attention and $ in that time then who knows if I will ever return. I know a lot of people feel the same way. I really, really like Planetside, best game, with the most potential I have played in a long time. It is so close to being done so please just hold off on the release until it is and I believe
that more people will come and more will stay to enjoy it.

[Happy lil Elf]

This will probably come off worse than I intend but,

If the game is released as it currently stands I would not be purchasing it

Good. If you feel that way about the game by all means don't purchase it, I don't won't have to put up with you complaining.

[Determinado]

hey wtf are you talking about? like: When it's released, nothing else happens with the game...that's not correct, it's even pretty strange you still tell so because lots of games like GTA3 (sux but was bought real a lot), it wasn't even compatible with the usual Geforce settings, and also not with ATI, tell me, anything left???

Not really, but everything was patched in a lil patch, and since much is serverside in planetside we won't have to download little tweaks (wich could happen daily!)

[Jarlo]

MMO games are NEVER really ready for release.. NEVER EVER. There are always patches and the game is never really done. If you don't like that dont play MMO.

[Feign]

I know that fixes will be available through patches, what Im saying is that as it currently stands, it is still pure BETA. People will be spending their hard earned money to participate in a second stage beta rather then a finished product.

Im not bashing this game, I love it, but releasing a buggy unfinished game is death. People get one free month after buying it. If in that time they have to spend hours downloading a patch every day, or get their characters wiped, or the servers are always down fixing this or that, many will seriously consider if it is worth it.

Im just trying to help the game survive. Im not saying that it should be flawless and perfect, but the basics NEED to be in place before they start taking peoples money.

If you had to start paying right now (Go out and buy the game and start paying monthly), before you got to play again, and without the knowledge of what really will be put into place in the future, would you?

Some people have lots of cash and dont really care one way or the other, but many of us dont have that benefit and have to actually make the decision on whether it is worth it.

We have about a weeks time, and we will all have to choose.

We will all have to answer that question in a week or so.

[kerosene31]

Will this game be perfect on release? No way. No multiplayer game ever is. However there is still time to fix the remaining bugs. Just because the cd's are put in a box when the game is gold, don't think that development will stop. There will probably be a patch available on the day of release as the devs keep working while the game is distributed.

As for balancing issues, those are easily made and will constantly evolve over time. A multiplayer game is never ever truly balanced.

If you really don't want to deal with a few bugs, then wait a month to buy.

[Peanut]

I plan on waiting a month or so after release to purchase it, as it stands now. Granted, in the past week, CTDs have become much better...but not give-more-money-to-SOE better. I'll reevaluate at the end of the beta, then see...we still got 13 days.

[Happy lil Elf]

Some people have lots of cash and dont really care one way or the other, but many of us dont have that benefit and have to actually make the decision on whether it is worth it.

That's not a valid argument though. You're not basing it on the fact that you don't have the money. You're basing your decision not to buy in on your opinion that it's not worth the money. That right there negates that argument since it's based on opinion and not fact.

If you enter a debate and take the position that something is bad and are arguing against someone who says it's good and you're both basing that on opinions and not facts, there is nothing to argue. You can talk about how unrewarding it is and how horrible the lag is, how you CTD all the time (just examples of common comments from the negative side) but the unrewarding this is not a constant=. Neither are the lag or CTD issues since I can play on my AMD 950 w/768 RAM and a GeForce 440 MX with almost no lag, some FPS issues (Duh) and virtually no CTDs unless the population maxes are being reached on a continent in which case lots of people drop.

Again if you don't want to buy it, great, we don't care. Telling others not to buy it because you don't like it is dumb, just as not buying something because someone you've never met says they don't like it. I fail to see how this game is any different than any other game. You get a free month to play it after buyig it which is as long if not longer than it takes to finish your average video game nowadays.

So I guess in closing, what's your point? That Planetside is a horrbile game? Hardly. That Planetside isn't worth paying to play? Maybe, depends on how much you like it which no one will know without buying it, as is the case with many many games. That others shouldn't buy it because you don't like it? I hope not.

[Bsod]

i'm gonna wait a month for the bugs to fix, that and Enter The MAtrix comes out May 15

[Feign]

You arent listening, I LIKE planetside, I WANT IT TO DO WELL.
Im DISSAPOINTED that they want people to start PAYING before it is ready to be paid for.

That's not a valid argument though. You're not basing it on the fact that you don't have the money. You're basing your decision not to buy in on your opinion that it's not worth the money. That right there negates that argument since it's based on opinion and not fact.

I have no clue what you are trying to tell me with this. If you want to debate me you need to have a topic first. This is not an argument but a statement. You are saying I have to buy it because I have an opinion about it???

Im not trying to dissuade people into not buying this game, because thats not what I want. What everyone is aware of is that the game is not where it should be as far as releasing it in a week is concerned. So why not simply spend a little extra time and put it there?

Is there any of us testers that would rather see it on the shelves sooner instead of later????

[Harps]

hmm .. it seems that i have read about this in 5 other threads in the last week .. Its all been talked about get over it .. its coming out on the 20th and u either buy it or dont

[AtomicBanana]

basically.... you want more beta time so u can play it for free longer. End of discussion

[Airlift]

For those of us in the cheap seats... what is the purpose of this thread?

[Feign]

Whats the purpose of any of these posts?

=)

[Happy lil Elf]

I have no clue what you are trying to tell me with this. If you want to debate me you need to have a topic first. This is not an argument but a statement. You are saying I have to buy it because I have an opinion about it???

Read a little farther down where I said:

Again if you don't want to buy it, great, we don't care.

It's not so much you feign. I'm just fed up with threads talking about how much the game sucks, how unbalanced it is, how this weapon needs to be nerfed, how this empire sucks (which coincidentally always seems to be the empire the person posting indicates in their sig), how it's totally unstable, etc. when virtually all of it is untrue.

I've just reached the point of not caring. You don't like the game, fine, go the hell away. You think the Phoenix/Chaingun/Cycler should get nerfed? That's fine, but next time try actually using the wepaon before crying about it...and then go the hell away. I know we're supposed ot be giving feedback on balance issues, but "The Vanguard takes 28 Strikers to Kill!!!" or "I got owned with one shot by a Phoenix!!" are not statments addressing balance, they're out-right lies. All the whining, complaining and just general idiocy that I've encounted on the Beta boards has just driven me a little insane I think. Granted this isn't the Beta boards, but I thik it's just becoming a reflex to any kind of whine or complaint.

I think the Beta boards have just really made me jaded