PS, the Matrix and its future

MrVicchio · 2003-04-25, 07:15 AM

I started a thread once, about how I felt the game was... too small... or just kinda... felt that way ya know?

Well. After reading the whole Matrixing gig... I realize something... it going to get worse, the feeling the game is small.
Being restricted as to what base you can actually GRAB is going to limit the number of available bases to take.... this means MORE people fighting over the same realestate. This is good, this is also very very bad.

GOOD: Because we are gonna see more defined fighting, instead of take a base, run and lose it to the stelather hacking dewds.

BAD: Because if you thought the TK in the CC was bad now... just wait till this goes in. You feel your squads done "all the work" where as Joe and is squad take offense to this and let you know it by capping you and your hackers. CC TKing is going to spirial even HIGHER, if the Matrix goes in... period. This is not a good thing, and I cannot think of a solution to the issue.

If you make a TK on a hacker 200% TK points... you just hooked up the "ninja hackers"

If you TAKE TK OFF, it not only hooks up the Ninja Hacks, it also makes CC hold that much more rediculuos.

If you make it so that the squad that has done "the most" as determined by the server... what defines the most? Could this add lag?

So you see, I am leery, but hopeful relaly, this all works out.

Gerico · 2003-04-25, 07:27 AM

They could easily remedy it, by all squads in the base receiving BEPs and all squad leaders getting CEPs then it makes no difference who hacks and everyone in the base would of most likely helped anyway.

Winja · 2003-04-25, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Gerico
They could easily remedy it, by all squads in the base receiving BEPs and all squad leaders getting CEPs then it makes no difference who hacks and everyone in the base would of most likely helped anyway.

Sounds like a sensible answer

Gerico · 2003-04-25, 07:44 AM

It could cause problems if someone just turns up, but hell, they probably had to fight to arrive in the base anyway, less base caps as well with the matrix system, so it won't be unfair.

MrVicchio · 2003-04-25, 07:45 AM

That is a solution, but not one I have heard the "devs" metion to my knowledge.. it could solve the TKing.

Hamma · 2003-04-25, 08:34 AM

I'm going to wait and see what its like before i comment.

Hijinks · 2003-04-25, 08:42 AM

They seem to indicate that you can still cap bases behind enemy lines. The procedure would be something like this:

1. take out generator.
2. damage base equipment so it uses up NTUs repairing itself
3. base goes neutral
4. hack
5. fill up NTUs
6. sweet sweet exp

That way a lone hacker can't do it, but a full squad sure could. It would be nice if an advanced engineer could empty the NTU silo directly (over a fair amount of time).

BladeRunner · 2003-04-25, 08:46 AM

I agree with Hamma.. I have trouble taking any of these "strong opinions" against the lattice seriously at all, because none of us have tried it. And even when we have, it's still in the works, the first of many changes (as they've said). So why get your panties in a twist? Let's try it, if there's something wrong with it, they'll notice and work on it some more. Or if it's a total bomb, they can always *gasp* remove it..

I for one am really happy that the devs are so willing to make such a drastic change, for the sake of trying it out. Don't discourage this

LesserShade · 2003-04-25, 09:37 AM

I agree MrVicchio. I won't be sold on the idea until I check it out obviously, but you are right, the interfaction competition for the CC is going to be hot and there are some squads that are going to be pissed. Gaining CEP is going to get quite a bit harder now.

Hellsfire123 · 2003-04-25, 09:48 AM

Am i the only one with a squad where no one wants CEP? Ive seen promtion battles with my squad, people playing hot potatoe with squad leader position so they get BEP instead of CEP.

I like the Matrix, it means ill be assualting defended bases (more BEP), when im behind enemy lines i can assemble a squad with relative safty, and when im defending a base, someone will actually ATTACK it.

It might lag at first, and it will take alittle getting used to, but it will ultimatly help the game play.

Hamma · 2003-04-25, 10:21 AM

On paper, I am not a fan of it at all. But on paper is totally different than in game.

OdlyEnuf · 2003-04-25, 10:55 AM

So the "Matrix" idea is a go? I hadn't been reading up on it the past few days.

Hamma · 2003-04-25, 11:11 AM

A version of the matrix is in the next patch, yes

Led · 2003-04-25, 11:12 AM

I love it. It will finally give me a reason to fight.

Happy lil Elf · 2003-04-25, 11:21 AM

Of course you fail to aknowledge that the Dev team has been working on a fix for the CC TKing before they said this was going to be implimented. You also don't mention that they're already looking at how BEP for base capping is distributed.

Quite frankly you're arguing against something that you haven't tried, Mr. V. Not only that you're going into it with the attitude of this is going to ruin the entire game. I'm sure that won't flavor your reaction to it at all once you actually get to try it either

Hamma has said he's not a huge fan of it on paper, but seems much more willing to look at it with an open mind in game. Talking about how horrible it will be when you haven't tried it is illogical but not only that, you're a beta tester. Things change and the reason you get to play this game for free long before it releases in retail is to try out those changes.

In short, quitcherbitchin and give it a try