elitess and Planetside

[PR24]

Last night my clan (CDL) had a great convorsation about how PS if different from other games and things that we noticed about players, and I thought I would share some of what we talked about with the community.

When players post that they are looking for a squad a lot seem to think BR means something when really in this game it's not that much.

Planetside is built on a team based aspect and being a cowboy has no place in PS nor will you succeed in PS with that attitude/mind set. I would rather have a BR1 player with a great attitude and a willingness to work as a team then a BR20 that thinks he/she is the "shit" and is 1337.

So many strive (as do we) for BR but the MOST important thing is teamwork and friendship. These 2 qualities in a player can only bring success to you and your clan now and in the future.

So just remember that skill can be learned but a great attitude and teamwork will help a clan a lot more the a BR# with an elitess attitude.

[TekDragon]

*points to edit button*

Fix it, now.

[PR24]

[Sprocket]

I have a BR level limit when I start a squad: 2 BR's below my current level. I find that this enhances my squads coherency and combat ability greatly. BR does me something, it means someone has played for a certain amount of time, gotten a certain amount of kills (or squaded enough) to obtain that level, which implies that he/she better know at least something about the game.

When I have let my standards fall due to lack of people and recruited anyone into my squad It usually talks 50% longer to get out of Sanct, coordination is alot harder, and we don't cap as many bases. The problem is that while I know there are lots of BR1 and 2's who probably know how to work well in a squad and want to play along, I cannot go sifting through them all during a battle. I need people from the start I can reasonably trust in a fight, and usually that means looking at BR as an indicator.

[PR24]

Originally posted by Sprocket
I have a BR level limit when I start a squad: 2 BR's below my current level.

This is the elitess attitude I was speaking of. I mean no disrespect but that statement makes it sounds as though you have to act as though you are better then the rest because of your BR

When I have let my standards fall due to lack of people and recruited anyone into my squad It usually talks 50% longer to get out of Sanct, coordination is alot harder, and we don't cap as many bases.

This is the squad leaders fault. Clear direction and good planning will prevent this from happening

The problem is that while I know there are lots of BR1 and 2's who probably know how to work well in a squad and want to play along, I cannot go sifting through them all during a battle. I need people from the start I can reasonably trust in a fight, and usually that means looking at BR as an indicator.

This guy could have gone and done VR training to BR4-5 then done ant runs to get to BR10, this is no way means he is a good team player.

Also remember like I said in my first post this is for clan/squads when they recruit. The people looking for a perminent home.

[Streamline]

Wow i dont have too much time before i gotta go so i'll keep it short and mark this spot fro further comment.

I have only headed but a few successful pickup squads. And i have not been picky about who i invite. I did it out of the sanctuary and it took forever to get ready and go and finally be there. I think there is only so much that can be done in a pick up squad. I have since started squads in bases that have recently been hacked and usually by me. And i find that these ppl already know enough to get there. So it is easier to get to ppl follow, as they may already be on the same page.

[LesserShade]

In game VOIP (when it works) and CR3 battle plans really help keep pick up squads organized and fun IMO.

Judging other players on BR is almost pointless because a BR2 grunt can still be packing reinforced and medium assault which makes him just as deadly as about any other player on the field.

[d0rian]

you are forming a new squad. havent made one yet or you need more than your your handful of friends and need more friends.

what do you look for? BR or a missing certificaiton that your team does not have.

if you dont know the person how can you judge how well they will do on your team. you want someone with experience. just like in real life. you may end up with a twit with xp or a really good team player who is just starting out.

but if you do a statistical analysis: more squad leaders will pick the guy with the higer BR.


it played very well during beta where the exp came so quick that you could train in everything.

but i would guess that is not the case in the gold product.
i bet it is going to be much harder to be multi-skilled.
it make take many game hours before you can get to level 15 just like in any other role playing game.


I just dont see the experience of player equality in the beta as in the final product. but the small infantry wepons luckly are powerfull enought to make a good stand and we dont have to worry about what our strengh/wisdom/dex ratios are.

[Jimbo]

A soldier's BR level has little relation to their skill. That BR3 fellow you refused to lower your standards to may be a BR20 CR5 player who wants to take a different cert path or maybe justs wants to fight instead of command. I know not every BR1-3 person knows what he is doing but you never know until you give them a chance.

[PR24]

Originally posted by Jimbo
A soldier's BR level has little relation to their skill. That BR3 fellow you refused to lower your standards to may be a BR20 CR5 player who wants to take a different cert path or maybe justs wants to fight instead of command. I know not every BR1-3 person knows what he is doing but you never know until you give them a chance.

Nice post

[Stregone]

BR's aren't like levels in RPG's. They don't make you any better, only more flexible.

[PR24]

Correct

[Geiden]

As much as I dislike grammar/spelling freaks, for some reason this post is getting to me.

The term is elitist. It can be an adjective or a noun. The title should read "Elitism and Planetside."

Thank you. We now return you to your post.

[Sprocket]

Originally posted by PR24
This is the elitess attitude I was speaking of. I mean no disrespect but that statement makes it sounds as though you have to act as though you are better then the rest because of your BR.

[b]This is not elitist at all. I do not look down on low BRs or call them names, TK them etc. I only know that as a general rule of thumb a higher BR implies a better player who will work with the squad well[b]

This is the squad leaders fault. Clear direction and good planning will prevent this from happening

You obviously don't lead squads very much. Just because the squad leader has a head on shoulders and does his coordination well does not guaruntee people will follow his direction. If I tell my squad to hot drop, assign three man squads to accomplish specific tasks, and then get 4 tells saying "wtf is hot drop?!!!11" then I'm screwed because I'm working with a bunch of n00bs, not because I can't plan a mission.

This guy could have gone and done VR training to BR4-5 then done ant runs to get to BR10, this is no way means he is a good team player.

He could have but probably didn't. The most you can get form VR is BR 3, and im sorry but most players I've met deplore ANT runs (I do them for my squad usually, AS the leader). Like I said before, my personal squad rules are made because of general trends I have observed, I understand there are exception but the way I run my squads generally results in good caps and a fun time for me and my squad members. That is what this game is about IMO.

[Jarlo]

For nearly all of my pickup squads I've gone to the hotspot and announced LFS and usually get invited fast. Even better if you get in a vehicle and shout xxxx driver LFS and gunner.