Heavy Assault

Plato · 2003-05-29, 02:46 PM

Top 10 kills in myplanetside.com

Check out the NC's they appear to have either Reaver or Heavy Assault or both...

I checked the TR top 10 killers on Markov and not one of them has Heavy Assault. The mini chaingun is a load of crap that cannot shoot straight. I rest my case.

I'm not calling for a nerf on the Jackhammer but these two weapons should be equals. Some of my friends do not even like fighting NC purely because of the power of the jackhammer...

Nitsch · 2003-05-29, 03:22 PM

Jackhammers are a fine weapon but not undefeatable. For one thing, you can hear them coming from a mile away.... and they cant hurt a fly at a distance.

They kick ass inside a base, but if you get the jump on them with a sweeper, they are dead meat. Or do as i do... sneak up near them and drop a boomer.

I don't think they need to be nerfed (I am vanu even)... if you think they are so uber, loot one off a corpse and see for yourself (or better yet roll a NC and see for yourself).

I think the reason you see so many of them is because they are the flavor of the month. Lets not call for nerfs. Each weapon has it's strengths and weaknesses.

Plato · 2003-05-29, 03:28 PM

I said I am not calling for a nerf. Just that the TR should have a "fine weapon" too. Hell, it costs 4 cert points..

kerosene31 · 2003-05-29, 03:31 PM

Wait, let me get this straight, the TR needs better weapons?

That is the one nice part about being Vanu is that nobody from the other realms even bothers to loot your weapons.

BigFreak · 2003-05-29, 03:33 PM

i'm sure if we could loot ur maxs we would ;p

Plato · 2003-05-29, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by kerosene31
That is the one nice part about being Vanu is that nobody from the other realms even bothers to loot your weapons.

I'd loot VS weapons but I can never tell wtf they are or what cert is needed..

Led · 2003-05-29, 03:38 PM

The chaingun most definetly does NOT suck. It has its advantages and disadvantages, just like the jackhammer. When ninjaing a heavily defended TR base with a small squad, the first thing I do is bogart a chaingun. With the massive amount of infantry that is surely going to come pounding downstairs, the huge magazine and greater range of the chaingun is a whole lot more useful.

Nitsch · 2003-05-29, 03:41 PM

TR don't need to get heavy assault.... all you need is that cycler. I love that damn thing. It's great at long, medium and short range.

My big complaint about the cycler is that many vanu loot them and use them, confusing the hell outa me. I hear a cycler fire.... i run over there and see one of my guys firing it.

Plato · 2003-05-29, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by Nitsch
TR don't need to get heavy assault....

TR don't need a decent heavy assault weapon? Like they don't need a decent tank either...

To think I was expecting some backup..

Nitsch · 2003-05-29, 03:48 PM

The mini gun is a nice weapon as Led said.... you wanta see sucky... look at the Vanu heavy assault. I never see anyone use that thang. For one thing, as soon as you fire it... it's like sending out a beacon telling every foe withing 20 miles where you are. The bullets are slow enough that you can just strafe dodge them.

Led · 2003-05-29, 03:52 PM

Nope, vanu lasher is also a very decent weapon. Once you get the lead down, you can kill people EXTREMELY fast with it. Also works great against those people being annoying and hiding behind things

tmartinez72 · 2003-05-29, 05:09 PM

Problem with the lasher, even if you lead the velocity is so slow, they can still dodge it. Even at close range. You literally can see it coming.

The ROF is slow, that you can run between the shots.

A direct hit of the lasher IS effective, it's just the problem of hitting. You lead, they see it coming and just reverse direction.

Either, increase the velocity (my choice) or increase the ROF (it only holds 20rds per clip).

The damage on the other hand is perfect.

Led · 2003-05-29, 05:19 PM

It has the ability to engage long range targets, but it is not its primary role. If you are getting flustered for being unable to kill anything beyond ten feet reliably... you are misusing it. Heavy weapons are almost exclusively for close range combat.

The lasher is perfectly balanced. Any increase in velocity (it was already increased in beta, as well as damage, and the lash effect was tweaked), ROF, and mag size would severely overpower it.

Just have to learn to use its advantages, and maneuver so your opponent does not have his. I aint talking out of my ass. I did not become #1 in kills for NC on Johari by misusing my weaponry and complaining about how hard everything is.

tmartinez72 · 2003-05-29, 05:34 PM

Then it's just not me mis-using it or I perfected anti-lashing techinques.

I played TR in beta and rarely (i do mean rarely) killed by a lasher, even indoors.

I would get hit (and the lasher does horrific damage), but even indoors, the lasher ROF and slow velocity was so slow that I can get behind him and get the kill.

I wouldn't come out unscathed, but I would be the last one standing.

Plato · 2003-05-29, 05:58 PM

Hey this thread was for bashing the mini chaingun! :o

Is there any TR who has the cert to give their take? (or did cert in it at some stage).

I just don't see the point in spending 4 points on this when it's just a really inaccurate version of the cycler w/ a larger ammo capacity.