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Old 2003-06-18, 12:50 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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The Planetside armaments predicament that�s plaguing us today


Well I was going to make this all nice and fancy but since I am continuing to see more and more nerf posts I think I'll keep this simple.

First off I doubt the Jackhammer will get changed, I remember the devs saying a little while back that they were satisfied with how it was.

second If for some reason the smacktards win and the jackhammer does get nerfed then you will have to nerf the lasher because that gun flat out owns...

third I saw a few posts saying that the jackhammer needs to be nerfed because 90% or something of NC are using it. Well then we damn well better nerf the cycler because I see tons of Terrans using it and that gun will rip you apart too...

now, can't we all get along and share a nice big frosty glass of STFU?
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Old 2003-06-18, 12:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I coudln't agree with you more. I wish all you whiners wuld hsut up.

Look, here it is, the one fact that ends all your whining about poeple owning you with the jackhammer: SHOTGUNS ARE SUPPOSED TO KICK ASS IN C.Q.C.!!!


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Old 2003-06-18, 01:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Fack, I though the Jackhammer was a sniper... .. JK bro

EDIT: shat... wrong guy to quote :o
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Old 2003-06-18, 01:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally posted by 1024
SHOTGUNS ARE SUPPOSED TO KICK ASS IN C.Q.C.!!!

OMG and here I was using a shotgun to snipe with!
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Old 2003-06-18, 02:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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The Jackhammer is a little too effective in close quarters fights. It doesn't need a massive nerf, but a slight one to put it more in line with the Mini-chaingun and Lasher would be welcome. And, just to let you know, people like to whine, but every whine has a basis. Wide-spread whines generally result from an actual problem. When the Jackhammer is nerfed, or the Mini-chaingun and Lasher buffed, it won't be because the people unhappy with the Jackhammer "won". It'll be because the wide-spread complaints were indicitive of a problem with game balance, and an actual problem with the game fixed. A lot of people tend to fault the developers for listening to the "whiners", but the fact is that a lot of the time you have a lot of people complaining about the same thing, there is something wrong with the game.

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third I saw a few posts saying that the jackhammer needs to be nerfed because 90% or something of NC are using it. Well then we damn well better nerf the cycler because I see tons of Terrans using it and that gun will rip you apart too...
We use the Cycler by default. The Punisher is really a poor weapon, and is used more for its underslung grenade launcher than anything else. So if you don't want to use it, your choices for an automatic rifle are down to the Suppressor or the Cycler. If the Lancer were not effective vs infantry, you'd be seeing the Pulsar a lot more too, but that doesn't mean the Pulsar is an incredibly good weapon, just that it happens to be the best from among the assault rifles.

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Old 2003-06-18, 02:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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If not nerf the jackhammer, make the CG and VS weapon equivilants NOT SUCK, bring them up to par.

The chaingun sucks.. the VS weapons are getting upped.. the TR need the same lovin
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Old 2003-06-18, 02:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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heh, thats the whole point warborn, nerfing the cycler would be stupid.. so is nerfing the jackhammer.... I'm all for making weapons powerful...
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Old 2003-06-18, 02:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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yeah....ITS A FRIGGIN TRI BARRELED SHOTGUN IDIOTS ITS SUPPOSED TO KICK ASS!
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Old 2003-06-18, 02:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Old 2003-06-18, 03:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally posted by OneManArmy
heh, thats the whole point warborn, nerfing the cycler would be stupid.. so is nerfing the jackhammer.... I'm all for making weapons powerful...
That's not the point at all, but I'm not going to get dragged into a Jackhammer debate again. Time will tell what the people who matter (the developers) think about the situation.
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Old 2003-06-18, 03:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Heavy Assault is worth 4 cert points for a reason. The weapons should be powerful. The Jackhammer is really affective and I'm okay with that...I'm not sure about the Vanu Heavy Assault weapon, but the Mini-ChainGun really really really really REALLY isn't worth a damn. Until it's improved, I'll continue looting Jackhammers to use against their makers.

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Old 2003-06-18, 03:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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5 bucks says its wont get nerfed. unless the higer ups brain wash the devs...
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Old 2003-06-18, 03:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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yes me and onemanarmy are taking bets anyone?
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Old 2003-06-18, 03:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally posted by ReaperofDeath27
yeah....ITS A FRIGGIN TRI BARRELED SHOTGUN IDIOTS ITS SUPPOSED TO KICK ASS!
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Old 2003-06-18, 03:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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I actually like the lasher the way it is. I approach people from 30 meters and start strafing and spraying those orbs at them. It's like boiling a frog, by the time they realize they need to get out, they're already dead.

Ya know, unless they kill me while my orbs are in flight, but that doesn't happen often. Or I fail to kill them and they kill me in cq while I'm reloading, which happens quite often.
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