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Old 2003-07-19, 04:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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One month after unsubscribing, looking back over my shoulder to PS


I quit PlanetSide 1 month ago and have been following the official forums occasionally. It seems to me nothing of any importance has changed yet and I still feel the same about all the topics I brought up back then :

My goodbye note

I was wondering what the majority of the players that payed for their 1st month after the free month feel about the game now as their accounts will start to expire soon. Are you now cancelling or are you continueing to pay? For people that payed for 3 or 6 months at once, do you regret it?

I find it quite amuzing reading all these goodbye threads on the official PS forums. They still bring up the same issues from a month ago. The topic "exp in groups" might be gone for most of you since you are BR20 but it seems that gameplay has changed exactly nothing. There are now even more goodbye threads stating that the most important factor is the lack of end game content.

As for me, I'm happy I didn't keep my PS account running. The devs made promises a month ago and they are making the same promises today. They will prolly still be making them in 1, 2, 3 months from now. Will anything change? Prolly not. Will the bugs & tech issues (clinet & server) be changed in 3 months? Well judging at the speed they are now fixing bugs - hell no! Sony pumped quite some money in PS devellopment and if the servers are indeed running empty as I seem to get the impression it won't be proffitable for them to cmpletely revamp end game content. I expect by the end of the year there will be 2 or 3 servers left for those with open accounts, a discontinued devellopment since all devs will be on SWG and EQ2. PS expansion? Forget it. Unless they want to gamble some money and with some marketing tricks (X-Mas holiday season) try to sell an pack.


I left DAoC for PS and I am now back with DAoC. I used to be complaining at Mythic's door about their poor support and lack of knowing what the problems in their game are. Well compared to Sony, Mythic has extremely good customer realtions. The latest improvement was a fully free housing patch. And as for customer support, did you know that Mythic is now giving point by point feedback on ALL class TL reports? That is 39 classes in the game. A reports for them can be up to 2-3 pages long and they now reply to them in public saying what can be changed or not. That is IMO what a gaming company for an MMO game has to do. Keep good communication with the players. Sony does exactly jack of that, the "I'll forward it to the programmers" forum clown they hired is not the way it should be.

Wanted to post this at the PS forums but.... lol. I can't post there anymore. One would think if they care for returning players they would at least keep the ability for them to post at the forum asking questions how the game is evolved.

Seems to me: PS = dead horse.

Flame away, agree or disagree as you want.
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Old 2003-07-19, 04:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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do you work for Mythic?....
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Old 2003-07-19, 05:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Haha, lol no. But try whatever other MMO game you want, I'm sure customer support can't be any worse than Sony.

FYI I'm not totally hooked on DAoC or so, just playing it now waiting for Half-Life 2 and WoW. After all I did get tired of DAoC and moved to PS a few months ago (totally loved PS in beta you know). As for WoW if Blizzard will release it as finished as all their other games I hope they set a new trend of how MMO games should be released. I'm totally fed up with the "first pay, then fix the game" attitude we get from a lot of them. I'm not paying to beta test!

However, I did get a sweet taste from the MMOFPS genre and I must say I like it more than MMORPG. PS is the first game in the genre, the release just went wrong with all the tech issues, bugs and boring end game. I blame both that and bad communication towards the players as the main reason the servers are running empty. Also there is not really a reason for PS to be on a persistent "$13/month" world. I don't mind to pay $13/month at all if I find it worth it. There is IMO little to nothing persistant about the 10 PS islands. I care jack about who locks what continent since it gives no rewards at all and the next day they are owned by other empires anyway.
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Old 2003-07-19, 05:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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You aparently have not looked into the fixes and such as much. many bugs have been fixed but just like any other game a fix here can make a problem here. Its all an endless chain. You say PS lacks content. PS has an equal number of guns and vehicals as anyother game out there. The diffrence is that they continue to give us more things to play with. (2 months into release 2 new things to play with) I think your over dramatizing the fact that the devs are taking it slow, you forget they just spent 3 years making a game for you with little or no sleep! Give the guys a break! The fact that when the game launched there were still many bugs brings me back to my opinoin that the launch should have been delayed sometime. It was evidant in beta that there were many bugs still needing to be fixed. PS is a master piece that is still not yet finished and will not be for sometime. For the people who play with the game with the patchess the game jsut gets better and better.
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Old 2003-07-19, 06:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I barely see a difference. I've played DAOC for about 10 months from the release date and quit. They had some serious balance issues, broken promises... sure some are missing from PS (been goin for like 3 months so far) but few compared to DAOC. I myself don't really care, I want to get in and kill people, I wanted to do that in DAOC but it was too slow to do.. wait 15 minutes on a pad zone, get zerged or whatnot zone back if no rezzers.. blah blah. It got boring till Mordred came out but still there were some problems... no one wanted to 1 on 1 my Warden. Do they have housing there yet? I havn't checked.
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Old 2003-07-19, 06:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally posted by Breydel
Blah blah blah...There are now even more goodbye threads stating that the most important factor is the lack of end game content...blah blah blah
I agree with you there, no end game content. Let's think about that. THERE IS NO END TO THE GAME! If you mean reaching BR20 and CR5 as the end of the game, then your wrong, plenty of content. When you reach BR20 you can now experiment with a lot of certs, changing them every 24 hours so you can have experience in everything. Join an outfit, there's a Deliverer race coming up shortly, fun things like this happen every once and a while. If you are bored with a BR20, CR5 character, then start a new one on another empire. What is it that Hamma said,
"It's a FPS, you shoot stuff, you blow stuff up. How much more "Content" do you need?" If you don't like PS, good for you. You don't have to remind us that you quit or why, but then again it's a free country, and Hamma's the boss. Anyway,

see'ya Hope you find a better game
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Old 2003-07-19, 06:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Each to their own.

Personally I found DoAC to be the gaming equivalent of sitting watching paint dry, but there ya go ...
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Old 2003-07-19, 06:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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I guess its all a matter of personal opinion. I'm an old DAoC player. I left the game because I had played it since release and was just burnt out on it.

But I've always thought Mythic did a great job supporting their players. From my gaming experience(AO, UO, EQ, AC), no other developer does a better job than Mythic.

But initially Mythic struggled much like SOE seems to be doing with PS. Shortly after DAoC was released patches came pretty slow. Early patches did more damage than good much like PS patches seem to do. Mythic needed more people for the job that was required. They needed better programmers. They eventually got them. Then DAoC really improved and progressed from there.

Seems to me the Dev team needs a bigger staff. Its hard for a small staff to fix bugs AND develop new content. They could probably use a a 3D engine guru or two as well. The PS engine definately needs some performance tweaking.

I enjoy Planetside. Its a fun game. Right now Im not so much interested in new vehicles/certs as I am bug fixes and adding some more incentives to the game. Stuff like making base defense actually rewarding. Continent locks more signifigant than a pretty color on your map. They need to flesh out the goals and incentives 1st. Additional vehicles and certs can come later.

Also, as was said, PS is a FPS, so it will never come close to matching content compared to an RPG like DAoC or EQ.

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Old 2003-07-19, 06:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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If i could change one thing about this game to make it better: The devs actually going through with their prmoises in a timely manner. For example, and i've said this before, platoons. They promised platoons before the game even came out. Still no platoons. They added two new vehicles, but no platoons. Some things obviously must not be high on their prioirty list. Even the things that do seem to be high on their list aren't getting fixed very fast. The devs seem to be taking their sweet time fixing things.
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Old 2003-07-19, 06:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally posted by Lonehunter187
I"It's a FPS, you shoot stuff, you blow stuff up. How much more "Content" do you need?"
i belive it has been said in many posts that the content people refer to would be mainly a reason for fighting, and showing that auraxis wasnt always justa big place with bases towers and bridges spread about it.

well thats why i barely play anymore at least, i mean so what i can shot people who dress up different from me. who cares??? get a m4 and shot people who pass by inm your neihborhood. only difference is that u'll go to jail and they most likely cant shot back.
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Old 2003-07-19, 07:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Dude if you quit Planetside then why you even bothering comming to the forums? Obviously you didn't like the game for whatever reasons, but you still come back because? You must still want to play or something, why would you even care if people are quiting or staying? Because you didn't like how there running things you come here and try and pull people into what you think is going on? There running a business I'm sure there going at a fine pace, and making needed changes when they can. They can't just address every single problem and fix it, while still making new content for the game.
You find it amusing reading all the good bye threads on the official forums?? I didn't know people could be such losers and go back and look at forums of a game they don't play anymore.
Also why would they want someone who quit a game to be posting on there forums? All your doing is bad talking the game...thats not good business for them now is it? They have there main site right up there to show any updates going on I don't think you need to ask any questions about "how the game has envolved"
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Old 2003-07-19, 08:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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no more flames. This guy makes good points about the game that we all know about. He was just wondering if anyone else has seen improvement or excitement in this game in the month or so he's been gone. I would be interested as well. Being a beta tester myself I hate to see what PS is now. The bridge battles on Cyssor were a weekly occurance, now if they happen in a month it is a miracle.
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Old 2003-07-19, 10:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Massively Multiplayer Online First Person Shooter.

lots and lots of people online, all shooting at each other. what more do you honestly want?

how much 'content' does your average counter strike server have?
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Old 2003-07-19, 10:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Starrider,

In your sig, you have "War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left - Unknown". The originator of that saying is Bertrand Russel
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Old 2003-07-20, 12:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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I think what Milenko said is true. Why give a Sssshhhhpirit of teh Wolf scroll about a game you don't play anymore. I hate EQ. And most other MMORPG's because all people do I yak on and on about about elves women and how they'd like to roll her d69. Oh man, I don't understand how you people can do that. If this site didn't check every thread, I would be alot worse. PS has so much action. It's intense. Of all the 10 times I've played EQ and DAoC where so stoopid. People just sat there and traded and talked about spider silk and traded. This is why friendly fire and PvP was invented. The only good online RPG was Diablo. Arcanum is the best RPG ever in my book, and RPGs are meant for story, not for working on haggling skills and real estate. What's the friggin point of having your own house in DAoC anyway? You walk through it a few times, put some items in a chest and leave. That really gets me hard. I just love paying taxes to some tron-tarded computer Count Chocula. PS has no money, no trading (except weapons) and no houses. I play PS with my Quadro 2 256mb RAM and I'm not leaving, even if I punch my computer in a fit of rage when it freezes because it sucks. All I know is that nobody gonna try to sell me spider silk elven panties (so naughty). It;s true that the game needs some new stuff, but who cares. I haven't really noticed any real empty servers. Every go onto Emerald and go to Amerish. Constant war. I don't go there anymore because I lag so badly, but I'm not gonna put my characters suicide note and a PS forum hoping that maybe an programmers heart will grow 4 sizes to large, and he'll change it just because I died once even though when I made my inititiative check and I won it, he still got me because of that dang dernded lag. So stop complaing, and go become and apprentice to a 50th level real estate agent, and build a friggin house Bob. Can we do it? NO! Because it's so amazingly retarded.
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