Pheonix

Mognoc · 2004-02-22, 04:32 PM

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but the Pheonix's range needs to be upped. Fighting yesterday for Voltan, in the early stages of our battle Magridgers simply surrounded our tower. With the rest of the AV guys I ran up to the top and started shooting Pheonixes at them. Eventually they started running away across the water, and it made me so mad because I would be ten feet, then all of a sudden boom, I run out of wire (?). That's another thing, WHY are they wire controlled? They've got hover tanks, wormhole travel, yet missiles are still wire guided. Even today we are more advanced then this. I'm not asking for no limit on the range, but since after *every* shot we have to reload, in the meantime the enemy is getting out of range. Bigger ammo capacity or longer range. I think that buffing the capacity to 3(?) was talked about...I just want more range or less time wasted reloading. I'll sit here and wait for the flames.

EDIT: I also think the Prowler needs to be buffed for speed. I got about 3 prowler kills while they were running away because they couldn't go over the water and they're not nearly as fast as the Mag.

Liteshow · 2004-02-22, 04:45 PM

Let me be the first to flame. I hate people who use the Phoenix. I hate having to find them from behind rocks and trees and inside towers. They're like cockroaches now that the Deci is AV. All AV sucks. At least you have the component of human error as to whether your AV hits or not. Ditto with the Lancer. Damn the Striker, I couldn't get a lock with that thing standing in the open 10m away from my target.

Mognoc · 2004-02-22, 04:52 PM

I havent run against a Lancer in a while now, I heard one firing in the distance last night though, haven't actually seen one for a long time. my Lib got shot down with a Striker last night, maybe it's user error...Most people don't like the Pheonix because there's no LOS needed. You get a prowler hiding behind a wall, you just have to have a bit of skill to be able to turn it right in order to get around the wall, it *cannot* turn on a dime. Or a silver dollar for that matter.

DeadTeddy · 2004-02-22, 04:59 PM

it's not literally "wire guided" I think. it's like a remote control car only it can fly and crashing into something is the whole point.

some range would be nice though.

I would prefer a third fire mode. make the missile faster, allot faster. maybe 3 times as fast. make the range allot bigger as well, and add a timer that prevents the missile from exploding if it didn't travel for at least 100 meters. it would be hard to kill with it, but for long range magrider chasing it would definately own.

Liteshow · 2004-02-22, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mognoc

my Lib got shot down with a Striker last night, maybe it's user error...

Touche

The funny thing is, I like playing with the Phoenix. It's an arcade game in itself. The problem is that there is little error in it. The Lancer has a ridiculous lead time, and the Striker may or may not work.

No LOS, no computer aided/hindered aspects. No competition

Mognoc · 2004-02-22, 05:05 PM

Striker - Oh fuck, a lock. Time to haul ass.
Lancer - Huh? The lancer really sucks and needs to be buffed
Pheonix - OH CRAP! Where the fuck?!

Teddy, I'm pretty sure it is...Maybe I'm mistaken. I lived because I was the tailgunner in the Lib, and I saw them coming and bailed, the pilot was hauling ass toward a mountain, and the bombardier was busy doing nothing. I heard the Striker got fixed, but maybe not. I sometimes use Strikers I find, because the lock will sometimes scare off aircraft even if you have no ammo for the thing. I've neverh ad a problem with the lock...

EDIT:

Basically a TOW missile launcher, the New Conglomerate�s Phoenix uses wire-guided technology...

There's your proof, Teddy.

DeadTeddy · 2004-02-22, 05:11 PM

I'm into model airplanes. everything from gliders to R/C planes, and from what I saw, when you tie a plane to a rope it's gonna fly in circles around you. if you're talking about a communication wire, that's just stupid for two reasons:
1)it's a fucking missile. ask the coyote from loony toons to show you again what happens when you tie a wire to a missile
2)remote controls are quite easy to make, and much more effective then wires.

Dharkbayne · 2004-02-22, 05:11 PM

Fly by wire = camera guided. Dumbass.

Mognoc · 2004-02-22, 05:17 PM

Dhark, I see on the thread list you've posted here and I just knew I'd hear something like that.

You're almost as bad as Rayder. And I'm just going on what is posted on the weapons description. Dumbass.

EDIT: The "I'm just going on what is posted on the weapons description" is for teddy and Dhark, the Dumbass is for Dhark only.

Rayder · 2004-02-22, 05:20 PM

Phoenix is scarier than the other two AV weapons. Not only does it do the most damager per shot, it's the most accurate.

Mognoc · 2004-02-22, 05:24 PM

Rayder, I agree with you there...It's the best. The others need to be on par so we can kick your asses with equally powerful weapons...It has to be reloaded every shot, though, and that gives the target plenty of time to escape, except in the case of the prowler. Which, as I've already said, needs a buff. The Striker is better at AA, mainly because it's a lock on weapon and the Pheonix cannot catch up with an afterburning Aircraft and gets out of range by the time the Aircrafts burner cuts out. The lancer sucks. It needs a buff majorly.

MidnightDave · 2004-02-22, 05:32 PM

if u fix the striker lock-on issues, I wont have such a hate for the pheonix. Right now the pheonix is the best AV weapon hands down. The Lasher is now the best HA weapons hand down. What does the TR have that is the best hands down? Fix the striker lock-on and buff the lancer a tad and you will have equal AV. Ha is a different story altogether