Surge timer - Page 2

SilverLord · 2004-03-26, 02:06 PM

Adapt we shall and this WILL change how agile is used most definatly. I admit, I once used surge to give me the exploit that a lot of people do use. Yes, it is avalible to all people in the game. Thats the beauty of Surge and it's very effective. Lots of good players get surgile to get kills, and I really could care less, whatever floats their boats but I don't. At least not agile.

Eldanesh · 2004-03-26, 02:43 PM

Yeah, I called it an exploit. No one reading the PSU forums can pretend they don't know that surging in a fight causes warping for the enemies you are facing. And complaining about FREE armor not matching up well against armor that costs 3 full certification points is another point falling on deaf ears with me.

You get 3 implants... and 23 certs. Using one implant is as substancial if not more so than 3 cert points.

How about making it so that personal shield cannot be used with a weapon out? that makes about as much sense as the surge nerf.

I would not have minded if there was still a nerf, but no rundown timer. As it stands using surge will ONLY get you killed if you use it anywhere within a 50m radius of an enemy.

Also rexoside sucks, slowing down the gameplay more does not make it better, all it means now is whomever can take a lot of hits while spraying randomly wins. 6+ shots on a rexo while they draw a cycler and take me to half is nowhere near balenced.

Might as well not use surge at all any more and just get audio.

WritheNC · 2004-03-26, 03:06 PM

Considering I don't use surge in combat, rather, to get in and out of combat, I'll just adapt instead of whine.

And I'd like to see how much better I fare against the really good people that happen to warp when I'm trying to blast them with a sweeper.

Incompetent · 2004-03-26, 03:23 PM

You get 3 implants... and 23 certs. Using one implant is as substancial if not more so than 3 cert points.

Bullshit, there are maybe 6 implants worth using by most any char (and another 2 just for cloakers,) there are around 54 points worth of certs (excluding certs with benifits packaged with other certs.)

How about making it so that personal shield cannot be used with a weapon out? that makes about as much sense as the surge nerf.

No, it doesn't make any sense at all. Speed can be valuable when your not being shot at, such as for getting down to the gen while its under attack or quickly rushing to a breach in friendly defenses. A bunch of disposable hit points is useless except to absorb damage, which effectively requires you to deal damage back to be worthwhile.

Also rexoside sucks, slowing down the gameplay more does not make it better, all it means now is whomever can take a lot of hits while spraying randomly wins. 6+ shots on a rexo while they draw a cycler and take me to half is nowhere near balenced.

Rexo was meant for infantry combat, and it should outclass agile in a standup fight, otherwise there is very little to no benifit for having it. Agile was meant for people who don't specialize in infantry combat, it has other benifits, such as being free and offering the ability to drive/pilot most vehicles. Even with being able to use it in straight infantry combat, it still has it's uses.

Lartnev · 2004-03-26, 03:57 PM

MAXs have had auto-run for ages, and they get shot at by phalanx turrets when in auto-run mode. At least you surgers won't get that.

HawkEye · 2004-03-26, 05:24 PM

there wont be anymore surgers. i plan on droping surge and getting Audio Amp. i think hardly any one will use surge now.

Kaymon · 2004-03-26, 05:51 PM

Thing is, Surge was originally intended as quick foot transportation.

Baneblade · 2004-03-26, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kaymon

Thing is, Surge was originally intended as quick foot transportation.

And it looks like that is what it will finally be used for

I only used Surge when running a Pokeball in Standard...

Onizuka-GTO · 2004-03-26, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by HawkEye

there wont be anymore surgers. i plan on droping surge and getting Audio Amp. i think hardly any one will use surge now.

Talking about Audio Amp, does it still drain your Stamina or has gone the same way like Advance Targeting?

Sorry, I haven't tried it out lately since I never seem to get it to work properly during its short operation time....

ChewyLSB · 2004-03-26, 08:50 PM

I think audio amp will still drain, I'm pretty sure only enhanced targeting and range magnifier don't drain anymore. I'm going to be keeping surge though, I like to use it to run away from a combat situation when I know I'm going to lose to heal/repair myself.

Desperado · 2004-03-26, 10:30 PM

I honestly believe SOE comes closer and closer to balance after every patch (excluding lasher 2.0

)

.5 seconds will be just enough time for that rat bastard in agile to fall out of the cieling/wall/floor, hopefully ending the warping bug

don't get me wrong, I abused warp as well, but I would much rather see balance in the game

Patience young padawan, patience