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Old 2004-09-11, 11:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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I was thinking, what if in the long run, the invention of the nuke will save lives. For one it acts as a major deterrent to war. We already saw this once in the cold war. Nukes probably prevented major military actions between US and Russia. This could same effect will very likely repeat itself in history. Also, in WW2, what if dropping those 2 bombs saved Japanese and american lives in the long run? Japan made it very clear at the time that they would never surrender and would fight to the last man. With out the nukes we would of had to invade and loose many many people on both sides. It is quite possible that that invasion would of taken a far larger body count then those 2 nukes.

Just idle speculation. Whats your opinion on this?
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Old 2004-09-11, 11:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Old 2004-09-11, 11:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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lol yeah it is kinda random. But it is a very interisting question, at least to me.
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Old 2004-09-11, 11:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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It's a gift, and it's a curse.

It's a gift because from that bomb we've been able to make power planets that use the same energy to power our country, which is always good. On the bad side, people have developed/stolen/bought nuclear weapons in many different, and usually hostile nations. Yes, they CAN prevent a war, but if showing each other's army power dosen't simmer things down things will get ugly. Quickly.
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Old 2004-09-11, 11:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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nuclear weapons are more for diplomatic purposes then actual mass destruction.
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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wasnt it Clausewitz that said, War is a extention of politics?
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by JetRaiden
nuclear weapons are more for diplomatic purposes then actual mass destruction.
Precisely
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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nukes are a curse when in the wrong hands, and a gift when placed in the right
the same goes for any thing that has the potential to affect lives. (ie guns, leadershlip)
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Well I'm gonna make a wild reference to the battletech universe here and say:

Maybe it did save lives... but in the long run it's gonna fuck us up the ass. In battletech what happened is once the wars started instead of fighting those wars on the field they just nuked the fuck out of each other. This resulted in loss of technology and lives. The clans destroyed most of the records and scientists from the inner-sphere (explaining their loss of tech) and then a bill was passed and everyone signed it.

This bill involved the ban of nuclear weapon use. Some houses and clans still have some but they are unused...

Think 50+ years in the future.... I think that's probly what's going to happen just one big boom.
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:14 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Jaged
Also, in WW2, what if dropping those 2 bombs saved Japanese and american lives in the long run?
Of course it did. Dropping Little Boy and Fat Man on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved lives, I don't think anyone contests that.
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Let's just say nukes will do more wrong than they have done good.
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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unfortunately hezzy is probably right.
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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There's no stopping a nuclear winter. It's going to happen sooner or later.
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by -Hezzy-
There's no stopping a nuclear winter. It's going to happen sooner or later.
Well, yea, but nuclear winter and global warming will probably cancel eachother out, so we're essentially in the clear.
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Old 2004-09-12, 12:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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What if it is preventable... Its not like its in anyone's intrest to stop nuclear winter.
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