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Old 2011-02-18, 10:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: How to combat hackers


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I thought they used VAC for Modern Warfare 2, and that shit became a hackfest. Also, you couldn't even report hackers, which I felt made absolutely no sense. Let the community police themselves a littlebit.

Frankly, I don't know much about hacker tech, but Planetside Next better have a good system in place, because 1 hacker can ruin the fun for dozens of people.
I would assume Valve doesn't update VAC themselves for non-Valve games.
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Old 2011-02-19, 06:04 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Originally Posted by Raymac View Post
I thought they used VAC for Modern Warfare 2, and that shit became a hackfest. Also, you couldn't even report hackers, which I felt made absolutely no sense. Let the community police themselves a littlebit.

Frankly, I don't know much about hacker tech, but Planetside Next better have a good system in place, because 1 hacker can ruin the fun for dozens of people.
MW2 became a hack fest not because of VACs failings but because IW pissed off the PC community removing server support bringing in x box style match making. and in doing so claimed it was going to make the game hacker free.

that basically threw down the gaulet to every hacker group out there to go hack the game which they did with glee.

and to be far with both VAC and Punk buster there the lazy way to combat the cheats, banning people who use the cheats isnt the fix patching out the cheats that they use is. if a games properly maintained and patched regular it should never get over run by cheats there will always be a few in the game. but its something you've got to live with since no anti cheat program in the world will catch em all.
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Old 2011-02-19, 10:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Re: How to combat hackers


Originally Posted by Wrath View Post

and to be far with both VAC and Punk buster there the lazy way to combat the cheats, banning people who use the cheats isnt the fix patching out the cheats that they use is. if a games properly maintained and patched regular it should never get over run by cheats there will always be a few in the game. but its something you've got to live with since no anti cheat program in the world will catch em all.
Valve properly maintains their games, plus people run their own servers.
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Old 2011-02-19, 02:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Yea COD is a very bad example from a hacking perspective. Those jackwagons thought it would be a good idea to do match making similar to Console's on a PC.. that's just dumb.

Hacking is a huge problem in FPSs but one thing that SOE has an advantage on is people are paying for the game. If they hack they just simply ban their account and thats about it. What hacker is going to spend all the time to create more accounts requiring more billing information?

I think PSN needs good hack detection, solid CSR's, and a solid banning system in place to prevent repeat hackers.
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Old 2011-02-19, 04:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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What about prepaid credit cards that you can get at the grocery stores? Or SOE game cards?

If you're willing to put in credit card and billing info, why not a phone number?
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Old 2011-02-19, 04:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Valve properly maintains their games, plus people run their own servers.
i'm fully aware of that fact thats why valve games arent over run with cheats even after 5-6-7 years in some cases of there release I was talking about VAC as a anti hack system not valve as a company.
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Old 2011-02-19, 07:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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This discussion only makes sense if it is F2P. If it's subscription again (as it should be), then simple banning should be enough.
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