Instant Seat Switching

[Zulthus]

So we noticed in the PS2 stream that you can now instantly switch seats from inside a vehicle without exposing yourself.

I personally dislike this. You should have to expose yourself and get in the proper seat to use a gun... not even a matter of enter/exit anims anymore but this just doesn't sit well with me. They're just driving the Sunderer and instantly switch to the gun to kill someone... I just don't like the idea of it.

What do you think?

[LostAlgorithm]

Do you have to get out of a van to move from being in a passenger seat to driving? Same logic can apply here.

[Hmr85]

Originally Posted by LostAlgorithm

Do you have to get out of a van to move from being in a passenger seat to driving? Same logic can apply here.

I have to agree with this. Only thing I would change is that there is a slight delay in the time it takes to swap seats. 3 or 4 seconds would do.

[Stardouser]

I think it's very inexpedient to have to get out. Especially when you know that it's a matter of stepping out of your seat and up to the turret control inside the cab, so not even lore supports this.

[Zulthus]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

I think it's very inexpedient to have to get out. Especially when you know that it's a matter of stepping out of your seat and up to the turret control inside the cab, so not even lore supports this.

It depends on the vehicle however, such as the Liberator ball turret. You'd have to get out to access it.

[Virulence]

Originally Posted by Hmr85

I have to agree with this. Only thing I would change is that there is a slight delay in the time it takes to swap seats. 3 or 4 seconds would do.

Small delay on firing the weapon after switching seats would probably be easier - although, to a degree, this may already be the case even if it isn't hard implemented; if you switch seats to shoot something you're probably going to use a few seconds to bring the turret around, anyway, compared to having someone actively using it, so...

[CutterJohn]

Definitely needs a time delay, both to switch and to power up the equipment, and again when you switch back.

Also, the driver should be locked into the drivers seat unless the vehicle is motionless, for both ground vehicles and aircraft.

Really its just the tanks and libs that have to worry about this. The tank driver should not be able to hop into the AA turret in case aircav shows up.. completely destroys the point of having a gunner. And I don't want to see lib pilots figuring out how to line up their turret from the cockpit, and flicking to the gunner seat, shooting, and going back, without falling.

[Zulthus]

Originally Posted by LostAlgorithm

Do you have to get out of a van to move from being in a passenger seat to driving? Same logic can apply here.

There would logically be a delay too... as I said above different vehicles have different designs.

[SKYeXile]

manually switch imo. you should have to choose in advance what locations you need guns on and be prepared for possible threads. if they dont what that, atleast have a timed delay to get into a new location.

[Death2All]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

manually switch imo. you should have to choose in advance what locations you need guns

I like this. Your penalty for choosing the wrong seat should be...Well you're in the wrong seat, tough luck. Better not make that mistake in the future.

I just don't like seat changing, even with a delay on firing, or movement, or anything I still dislike it greatly. Anything that let's you switch from a gunner seat to a driver seat without being in any danger (apart from a delay in movement or firing) is lame. It always boils down to people camping around in their tanks spamming, only to switch to the driver seat and zoom away once they're in any real danger. That is boring. Please don't degenerate PS into yet another lame modern FPS manifested with the most borderline retarded mechanics to ever plague games.

[Zekeen]

Too quick will take out the tactical role of preparing for an enemy. You'd have to think ahead in PS1. Getting out, going to the next spot, and then getting back in - while under fire a lot of the time. It made you get to the gunner seat when you knew the enemy was around, instead of just sitting in the cockpit waiting for them.

I think it's fine to be done inside the vehicle, but a delay really would be the most balanced bet.

[Envenom]

Originally Posted by LostAlgorithm

Do you have to get out of a van to move from being in a passenger seat to driving? Same logic can apply here.

This. ^

[Death2All]

Originally Posted by Envenom

This. ^

Everytime I see someone arguing realism when it comes to video games I want to kill myself. Seriously. Leave behind your delusions and grandeur that realism = fun. It doesn't.

If you want ultra realism and sensible game mechanics the mirror that of reality, go play a simulation. Please stop trying to beat your non-sensible ideals into a game where there is no place for them.

Oh wait, what's what? The majority of PSU's community feels the same way as the guy who posted that? Fuck .

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Death2All

Everytime I see someone arguing realism when it comes to video games I want to kill myself. Seriously. Leave behind your delusions and grandeur that realism = fun. It doesn't.

If you want ultra realism and sensible game mechanics the mirror that of reality, go play a simulation. Please stop trying to beat your non-sensible ideals into a game where there is no place for them.

Oh wait, what's what? The majority of PSU's community feels the same way as the guy who posted that? Fuck .

PSU, we like realism in our video games.

[Envenom]

Originally Posted by Death2All

Everytime I see someone arguing realism when it comes to video games I want to kill myself. Seriously. Leave behind your delusions and grandeur that realism = fun. It doesn't.

If you want ultra realism and sensible game mechanics the mirror that of reality, go play a simulation. Please stop trying to beat your non-sensible ideals into a game where there is no place for them.

Oh wait, what's what? The majority of PSU's community feels the same way as the guy who posted that? Fuck .

This has nothing to do with realism. It has to do with FUN. Think game mechanics. Why impose the extra annoying step of exiting a vehicle and then making the player re-enter. You're already in the damn thing! GAMEPLAY friend. Think about it.