3 months old GDC interview with higby and t-ray

[I SandRock]

I did a few forum searches and couldn't find this linked anywhere. It's 3 months old though so if it did get posted then feel free to close/delete this. It was new for me at least and had some info that was new to me as well. Like leadership cert tree ideas they're throwing around:
If you check the comments on youtube there's links to all the questions.

Part 1
mportant Parts:
3:00 Capturing an Outpost
3:45 Thinking about a Steam Release
5:08 Locating Squad/Outfit Members Just Like Planetside 1
5:58 Respawn Times
6:35 Bases that can Spawn Galaxies
7:01 TRay - "Everything will change once Beta Comes Online"
7:11 Details on Certification System
9:29 Eventually going to bring back "All Continents" in some form or another.


Part 2
mportant Parts:
0:23 Methods of stopping hackers
2:05 More on Squad Leadership Tree
2:49 More Squad Leadership certs
3:38 Command Rank Info (Like twitter?)
5:20 Platoons aren't implemented yet
6:02 ...Might not be necessary
7:08 VOIP
7:26 TeamSpeak integration?
8:13 TRay bored :P
8:22 Proximal Chat planned

[Karma]

Woah great find! Haven't seen these before.

[MacXXcaM]

shorter hair... that's how I like him ^^

[Madfish]

4:15, Command Missions and Follows. That's fricking awesome.

Great video, lots of goodness!

[Kran De Loy]

Wait, I totally remember seeing this video before.

Oh well, totally a good thing to necro anyway.

[Lazaruz]

Saw these a while back, some interesting tidbits there.

Wonder why they chose PunkBuster for anti-cheat...

[Kran De Loy]

Yeah, now I remember where I saw these before, it was what sparked a.. well not huge, but large outcry against PunkBuster and how terrible it is.

However they did say later in response that PunkBuster was only one of the many systems they were considering to use.

I too do not know why they even bother with PunkBuster. I have no heard of any redeeming factors for it. PB is super terrible and proven not just useless in stopping anything more complicated that years old script kiddie type hacks it's also been used by hackers in many cases to actively punish legitimate players instead of the other way around.

[I SandRock]

Well there's no other alternative which is better. Besides making your own anti-hacking software entirely, which they might be doing as well.

What I personally don't get though is why the industry as a whole hasn't been able to succesfully target ArtificialGaming and that other hacking subscription website. I believe it's still that belgium dude HelioS who is running the show there and he was doing it back in the day with UT99 as well, but then for free and fun. How can Gabe get the cops to raid some german's kid house who hacked into the Steam servers but why can't the combined might of Valve, EA, SOE, etc. track down the owners and operators of these major hack websites and throw them in a deep dank dark jail for the rest of their lives? There will be other minor hackers but nothing as big as these and it'll send a good warning. I doubt many kiddies will want to take that risk on the same scale.
Digital piracy is harder to stop, since it's more complicated. Hacking though seems like a much easier legal case, you cause direct damage by illegally altering a company's product. I don't have any proof but I'd wager that hacking causes way more monetary damage to FPS games than piracy does.

[Dreamcast]

Higby is right about the elite Outfit members talking shit about the Planetside 2 chatting system they got planned.

Personally I think is great that the chatting system will work in local areas,vehicles, etc.


Sadly all these elitist on these Planetside board are talking shit and won't give it a chance because they think the general population is lesser than them.

[Kran De Loy]

Sad, but true fact of it is that most of the time we ARE better than the general public.

I dunno where you live and play games at man, but whenever I go somewhere I'm continuously amazed by the sheer stupidity that my fellow humans can achieve.

Edit: And I'm not talking about knowledge or memorization. I mean reasoning ability.

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by Kran De Loy

Sad, but true fact of it is that most of the time we ARE better than the general public.

I dunno where you live and play games at man, but whenever I go somewhere I'm continuously amazed by the sheer stupidity that my fellow humans can achieve.

Edit: And I'm not talking about knowledge or memorization. I mean reasoning ability.

Is funny that everybody I meet says the same thing.


Makes me wonder..Do I know all the geniuses of the population...or does everybody think they are superior.

I think higby idea is amazing...That's the game I have dreamed about, a MMOFPS, where people talk to eachother on voice chat...not just a persons outfit but everybody around.

Yet people will let their elitism get in the way and not even give it a chance.

[I SandRock]

Originally Posted by Dreamcast

Is funny that everybody I meet says the same thing.


Makes me wonder..Do I know all the geniuses of the population...or does everybody think they are superior.

I think higby idea is amazing...That's the game I have dreamed about, a MMOFPS, where people talk to eachother on voice chat...not just a persons outfit but everybody around.

Yet people will let their elitism get in the way and not even give it a chance.

It's a nice idea in theory but not in practice. They are talking about Vivox, which APB:R has as well. Here's a few problems:
- Worse quality
- Open to trolling. People who play retarded music over their mic, yell, scream, swear, troll, etc.
- Causes more lag than just running TS
- Less customization and options as TS, no individual control.

TS integration is a great idea though. And I could see Commander Rank + public voip work as well. But I'll be muting the public chat thats available for anyone the moment i start the game.

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by I SandRock

It's a nice idea in theory but not in practice. They are talking about Vivox, which APB:R has as well. Here's a few problems:
- Worse quality
- Open to trolling. People who play retarded music over their mic, yell, scream, swear, troll, etc.
- Causes more lag than just running TS
- Less customization and options as TS, no individual control.

TS integration is a great idea though. And I could see Commander Rank + public voip work as well. But I'll be muting the public chat thats available for anyone the moment i start the game.

I unfamiliar with Vivox but I have faith that the quality won't be bad but I might be wrong.

Well I know about trolling and I do expect some trolls but I expect people to actually use it for benifit the team.....also mute button.

More lag?...Hmmm i don't know about that.

[Kalbuth]

Originally Posted by Dreamcast

Is funny that everybody I meet says the same thing.


Makes me wonder..Do I know all the geniuses of the population...or does everybody think they are superior.

OT : Studies have shown that usually, people with the less knowledge on a topic are usually the ones who think they are doing great and know it all, they value their work high. People with knowledge and actually skilled will rate their work lower, and mainly see the flaws in what they do.
I always take the "I'm better than thou" attitude with this in mind

EDIT : listening to the video, is it me, or has T-Ray exactly the same voice as Mike Tomlin?

[I SandRock]

Originally Posted by Kalbuth

OT : Studies have shown that usually, people with the less knowledge on a topic are usually the ones who think they are doing great and know it all, they value their work high. People with knowledge and actually skilled will rate their work lower, and mainly see the flaws in what they do.
I always take the "I'm better than thou" attitude with this in mind

'Studies'.

Rating your work lower and seeing the flaws doesn't mean you cannot rate yourself as being better than the masses either. It simply means you are even better than you think you are, not that you think you're crap when you're actually really good