New Outfits Are Pointless - Page 2

Nemeses · 2012-07-02, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Soyokaze

Preface: This, possibly controversial, opinion is my own, and does not necessarily represent the prevailing opinions of the outfit to which I belong.

There is no reason to create new outfits.

Everything you want to do with such an outfit already exists within the established veteran outfits that have made themselves staples of the PS community.

Creating a new outfit simply because you want to be an outfit leader is not beneficial to your faction. It is a self-serving gesture that will only result in preventing you & your members from contributing as efficiently as you could to the overall war effort.

In short, please do not contribute to disorganization, redundancy, & inefficiency within the game's community.

(The only possible exception to this would be for established clans with pre-existing player bases that will be new to the PS series.)

what a load of rubbish, any chance you related to Stew?

There will be 100's of new outfits created and 100's of them will be very good, while 100's may also be pretty bad.

But to be so idiotic to say its a waste if time what crap, so a guild like I'm in being around since 2004, but did not play PS1 should now just disband and join a old existing one lol what a ass.

I think maybe you are Stew in disguise

KiddParK · 2012-07-02, 10:17 AM

First: great topic.

second: As long as they run purple.. i don't care if they're new, old, super organized or zerg. I actually encourage people to make their own outfits to experience something like we did when we made ours back in the day. We maxed out at 50k people with PS1. With PS2 being free that could be .. what? 500k? 5 mill? (yikes, dunno bout that number) but there's no way all the current vintage outfits could absorb numbers like that (though it would be interesting) There will be TONS of new outfits and I welcome them alongside me in the fight, or in my cross-hairs as more targets = me actually hitting something as i shoot randomly in a direction.

Dart · 2012-07-02, 11:23 AM

I like new Outfits... More skins to hang on my wall.

p0intman · 2012-07-02, 11:46 AM

the only people who will be mad about more outfits are huge 400-800-1k+ member zergfits like The Enclave or the 666th.

I for one welcome more new outfits from elsewhere.

Dart · 2012-07-02, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by p0intman

the only people who will be mad about more outfits are huge 400-800-1k+ member zergfits like The Enclave or the 666th.

I for one welcome more new outfits from elsewhere.

Love that gif. Now do the lobby term!

p0intman · 2012-07-02, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dart

Love that gif. Now do the lobby term!

this particular one was made by Duomaxwl of SAS, who is amazing. I might get footage together of most types of terms blowing up before ps1 ends to make gifs with. Dunno.

DviddLeff · 2012-07-09, 03:09 PM

New outfits are not pointless - the best will grow while those that are no good will either die off or stay as a small group of friends. Not allowing new players the chance of leading WILL hurt the game, and potentially old outfits may not let new members take the reigns of their group.

Outfits just like players come and go - only time will tell to see which stick around.

Hamma · 2012-07-09, 03:45 PM

Goodbye thread..

VaderShake · 2012-07-02, 01:00 PM

Help me out people.

I have been gaming with a group of about 20 for about 10 years now alomost exclusively playing battlefield titles,mods, ect. (we also have a vast gaming backround including MMO's) some of us were in the top 1,000 in the world regularly in Bf titles and we mostly consist of 30+ somethings, heck one guy B46 was number 4 in the world in battlefield 2142 it it's prime was 58 at the time. We have never joined a "clan" or made one ourseleves (we take great joy in running clans off their own servers though haha) but looking at PS2 we feel for the sake of adaptaion and effectiveness we will need to identify ourselves by making our own small outfit or maybe joining a outfit.

The questions I have is with 2,000 people in a map will there always be a significant ammount of organization and un-organization? For example if there are 700 on a team will 450 be organized and 250 be loners or semi-organized following others leads? Will it really matter if you are in a large outfit or a small one or none?

I would imagine not everyone playing PS2 will become or adopt the mindset of PS Vets and their ideologies about how to play PS2, I do asure you my crew will be into taking and defending assets as well as being fairly organized, but I don't know how hard core we will end up? We do enjoy out of the box tactics even if they end in a glorious loud failure from time to time, we just hope those moments are captured on film!

Any vets care to chime in on how you think you will approach/treat the loners or small outfits in PS2?

p0intman · 2012-07-02, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by VaderShake

Help me out people.

I have been gaming with a group of about 20 for about 10 years now alomost exclusively playing battlefield titles,mods, ect. (we also have a vast gaming backround including MMO's) some of us were in the top 1,000 in the world regularly in Bf titles and we mostly consist of 30+ somethings, heck one guy B46 was number 4 in the world in battlefield 2142 it it's prime was 58 at the time. We have never joined a "clan" or made one ourseleves (we take great joy in running clans off their own servers though haha) but looking at PS2 we feel for the sake of adaptaion and effectiveness we will need to identify ourselves by making our own small outfit or maybe joining a outfit.

The questions I have is with 2,000 people in a map will there always be a significant ammount of organization and un-organization? For example if there are 700 on a team will 450 be organized and 250 be loners or semi-organized following others leads? Will it really matter if you are in a large outfit or a small one or none?

I would imagine not everyone playing PS2 will become or adopt the mindset of PS Vets and their ideologies about how to play PS2, I do asure you my crew will be into taking and defending assets as well as being fairly organized, but I don't know how hard core we will end up? We do enjoy out of the box tactics even if they end in a glorious loud failure from time to time, we just hope those moments are captured on film!

Any vets care to chime in on how you think you will approach/treat the loners or small outfits in PS2?

loners and small outfits have their place. I wouldn't rely on them if I can help it, but they're still on your side.

Ambient · 2012-07-02, 08:03 PM

I think new outfits are good if only to empower a younger generation to begin to lead/form communities. As we all get older, we get stuffy and unable to adapt to change. Our communities become insular and our mindsets age with our minds.

New outfits are great for kills and for sustaining the PC gaming community. If we always said "ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLAYED MMOs BEFORE CAN MAKE OUTFITS NOW" in every game, then PC gaming would have died years ago.

The value of new outfits is clear.

Full disclosure: Leader of an 8 year old community, haha

SKYeXile · 2012-07-02, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by VaderShake

Help me out people.

I have been gaming with a group of about 20 for about 10 years now alomost exclusively playing battlefield titles,mods, ect. (we also have a vast gaming backround including MMO's) some of us were in the top 1,000 in the world regularly in Bf titles and we mostly consist of 30+ somethings, heck one guy B46 was number 4 in the world in battlefield 2142 it it's prime was 58 at the time. We have never joined a "clan" or made one ourseleves (we take great joy in running clans off their own servers though haha) but looking at PS2 we feel for the sake of adaptaion and effectiveness we will need to identify ourselves by making our own small outfit or maybe joining a outfit.

The questions I have is with 2,000 people in a map will there always be a significant ammount of organization and un-organization? For example if there are 700 on a team will 450 be organized and 250 be loners or semi-organized following others leads? Will it really matter if you are in a large outfit or a small one or none?

I would imagine not everyone playing PS2 will become or adopt the mindset of PS Vets and their ideologies about how to play PS2, I do asure you my crew will be into taking and defending assets as well as being fairly organized, but I don't know how hard core we will end up? We do enjoy out of the box tactics even if they end in a glorious loud failure from time to time, we just hope those moments are captured on film!

Any vets care to chime in on how you think you will approach/treat the loners or small outfits in PS2?

I think forming up your outfit would be a good idea, outfits are said to gain passive bonuses to gameplay etc, so you will want to be in one. 20 people online should be enough to get some things done, but expect to run into outfits where there are hundreds online, sending wave after wave of men at you. 20 people probably wont cut it, however bad they maybe.

But either way, If you're not too concerned with been one of those map movers then you can roll with whatever and find something to do, i play late night and our crew for that had always been only like 5 people, we always found something to do from re secure, tower hold, farm bitches in aircav or zerg it up.

My recommendation would be to formup the outfit with a site, enjinn if you're lazy(they;re adding PS2 support soon) then wait for beta see how you play the game what you like doing etc, then see if you want to expand, if you're good players you should be able to make a name for yourself with your core group of players and recruit off that.

VaderShake · 2012-07-02, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

I think forming up your outfit would be a good idea, outfits are said to gain passive bonuses to gameplay etc, so you will want to be in one. 20 people online should be enough to get some things done, but expect to run into outfits where there are hundreds online, sending wave after wave of men at you. 20 people probably wont cut it, however bad they maybe.

But either way, If you're not too concerned with been one of those map movers then you can roll with whatever and find something to do, i play late night and our crew for that had always been only like 5 people, we always found something to do from re secure, tower hold, farm bitches in aircav or zerg it up.

My recommendation would be to formup the outfit with a site, enjinn if you're lazy(they;re adding PS2 support soon) then wait for beta see how you play the game what you like doing etc, then see if you want to expand, if you're good players you should be able to make a name for yourself with your core group of players and recruit off that.

Yea, got my beta key and I am saving a vacation day to dig in when it goes live, the hard part is conning my wife I am working from home that day or that my tummy hurts and I need to stay home...

Akrasjel Lanate · 2012-07-02, 01:24 PM

Don't see no reson why would they restrict people from creating new outfits.

ringring · 2012-07-02, 01:29 PM

Think how big this game is going to be and how many servers will be necessary. Now think no more outfits are allowed. It doesn't compute.

If you want to create an outfit go right ahead, you're entitled, have fun. Trying to prevent new outfits is --not a good idea--