1 SC = 1 cert ?

Athanasios · 2012-11-01, 04:31 PM

it's common place that we have 0 clue of what the SC value will be for PS2... and of course this "triple Sunday bargain" sounds cool, but what is the point in buying more SC if i can unlock whatever i want with 4000 SC and still have some left?

i tried to make some rough estimations about the SC : certs rate, here's what i came up with (which might be not even close to reality, but anyway

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IF they design the system so that with 2000 SC (half of Alpha's pack) you can max out any vehicle (by maximising i mean certifying a single system for each category - utility, defensive etc), and assuming that each maximisation needs 480 certs, then we'll need about 2400 certs. So, the rate in this case is 1.2

with the same concept, if we need 1k SC for a maxed out vehicle, then the rate becomes 2.4, for 2.4k it's 1:1 and so on

Anyway, i'll stick to my Alpha SC, i'm not buying something without knowing its buying power.

maradine · 2012-11-01, 04:39 PM

1 to 1 seems too cheap at first glance. 4000 cert points would put me into almost everything I want from BR1. That's a good set of MBT guns with 2x optics each, rockets, a nice libby payload, and a bunch of infantry gear. I'm not sure I'd ever toss money into it again. Maybe I'm non-typical?

xuur · 2012-11-01, 04:40 PM

Im thinking moreso you'll likely be able to fully (or nearly so) enable one class (vs vehicle) as a baseline target (and with that of course be able to spread it around as you would see fit to vehicles etc instead).

still...all speculation at this point. I can sure envision that 4k being vanished pretty quickly just for the leg up on day one.

my personal thought is that I'll sit on the SC for awhile until things appear to be sorted a little better economy-wise to ensure better bang for the buck rather than spend it and find out an economic tweak a month in makes what I did frustratingly useless.

PoisonTaco · 2012-11-01, 04:43 PM

Possible. The more expensive items will likely be cosmetic anyways.

MrBloodworth · 2012-11-01, 04:50 PM

Im not following how Station cash = Certs? The only things you can buy with station cash are new weapons variant and cosmetics. Not scopes, sights, nano armor, tank side armor etc..

Athanasios · 2012-11-01, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by xuur

my personal thought is that I'll sit on the SC for awhile until things appear to be sorted a little better economy-wise to ensure better bang for the buck rather than spend it and find out an economic tweak a month in makes what I did frustratingly useless.

this is my initial thought as well, stay away from buying anything for about 1 month and see how they experiment with the economy

BUT, even if i'd buy something day 1, and then they reduce that price, then i would expect to refund me the SC. I'm not saying if they reduce prices 6 months post-launch, but there should be a minimum between tweaking so that the customer doesn't feel cheated.

Ruffdog · 2012-11-01, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Im not following how Station cash = Certs? The only things you can buy with station cash are new weapons variant and cosmetics. Not scopes, sights, nano armor, tank side armor etc..

Certs for the "depot" page I think he means. You'll still have to graft your way through the cert tree to get the optics, side armor. Taking Auraxium off the table has given certs dual significance

EVILPIG · 2012-11-01, 06:31 PM

The possibility of buying certs for SC has been on the table for a long, long time. There are mixed opinions about it, mostly those who would never spend a dime on the game oppose it vs. those willing to invest. Either way, yes, it would unlock certs for you earlier than those who "earn" them, but you're not going to have anything available to you that anyone else could not have eventually anyways, so why not let SOE get the money? The game has to be paid for some way and cosmetics alone won't do it.

DirtyBird · 2012-11-01, 06:45 PM

When they were tweaking Auraxium I thought it would end up one for one with SC but now thats gone there is no way SC is going one for one with Certs.

I dont think you will be able to buy certs, your SC is for boosters and cosmetics.

xuur · 2012-11-01, 07:03 PM

I would be a quite disappointed if the SC that came with the Alpha could only buy temp boosters and cosmetics (which I honestly have no interest in).

Athanasios · 2012-11-01, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by xuur

I would be a quite disappointed if the SC that came with the Alpha could only buy temp boosters and cosmetics (which I honestly have no interest in).

count me in too, i mean, isn't that obvious??!?

what am i supposed to do with the booster and the loverator stickers, when i have about ~1 hour now and then to play the game?

or vice versa, how am i supposed to catch up with my friends with a cosmetic sticker??

unless that booster gives me X1000 certs for 1 hour, when my friends will have that super duper S8000 Carpet bombing missile system, i'll still be with the needler -.-

SKYeXile · 2012-11-01, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by EVILPIG

The possibility of buying certs for SC has been on the table for a long, long time. There are mixed opinions about it, mostly those who would never spend a dime on the game oppose it vs. those willing to invest. Either way, yes, it would unlock certs for you earlier than those who "earn" them, but you're not going to have anything available to you that anyone else could not have eventually anyways, so why not let SOE get the money? The game has to be paid for some way and cosmetics alone won't do it.

Yea, even so i still dont think id be for it, at the point where you can simply pay to unlock everything, then whats the point of playing? the game then does just simply look like a dash for cash and if they did let you buy certs to me the game would just feel cheap and nasty and it would probably not be a game i would want to continue playing.

maradine · 2012-11-01, 08:06 PM

If you wouldn't play the game after cashing in for all the unlocks, why would you play it after BR20 (or equivalent)?

Marinealver · 2012-11-01, 08:31 PM

Well if they did that where you can buy all your certs then the free 2 play model will all go to pay 2 win.

Can you imagine Planetside (1) if you could buy your way to Cr5 Br40?

typhaon · 2012-11-01, 08:40 PM

I'm kind of avoiding the SC - until we can actually see what it's worth.

ex. 4000 SC is billed as worth $40 in the Alpha Squad promo - but as of this weekend sale, I could get 4000 SC for $13.33.

So - what can I expect for SC prices? Will items priced with 100 SC = $1 or 300 SC = $1?

Also - when the SonyStudio or whatever comes online.... then what? Is that an entirely different cash market (so why get my $ stuck in SC)? Or, will it use SC? If it does... SOE will have to stop these promos... or else they'll be giving away real money.

ex. 3:1 day... spend $100 to get 30000 SC. Buy a ton of PlayerStudio crap from your friends. Friends keep 40% of the 30000 SC (12000 SC). Friends convert 12000 SC back to $ = $120. SOE = -$20 on the whole transaction