Shotguns put in Infiltrator again?

da pstwo ninja · 2012-11-30, 01:18 AM

Shotguns such as the nova put into the infiltrator class(Vanu Sovereignty)? It was really fun in beta It might be too op but it was a lot of fun. Im not saying to put back the shotgun, just wondering if the shotgun will ever be put back into Infiltrator.
Heres a montage on how fun it was. (you have to admit it was fun in BETA)

krnasaur · 2012-11-30, 01:30 AM

no, it was OP.

Sifer2 · 2012-11-30, 01:53 AM

As if the hackers running around one shotting everyone in close range with the Bolt Actions isn't annoying enough lol.

Knocky · 2012-11-30, 02:12 AM

Don't need the shotgun, the scout rifles are great.

Mr DeCastellac · 2012-11-30, 03:21 AM

As bummed as I was to see the switch from pure 'play how you want' to the class system... I'm getting used to the new way, and I'd have to say that shotgun inf just seems wrong. I like the idea of a small SMG (which, correct me if I'm wrong, there already is), but in a class system, the shotgun seems more... light assault-, heavy assault-, and engineer-like.

Tooterfish · 2012-11-30, 03:22 AM

I want my HA to have cloak and sniper rifles.

Sturmhardt · 2012-11-30, 04:17 AM

Bad idea.

Figment · 2012-11-30, 04:31 AM

No shotguns. High speed scout sniper rifles are already hip fired as such anyway. Which is ridiculous.

Infils need pistols, explosives, scouting and sabotage tools. That's it. That's literally it.

Mavvvy · 2012-11-30, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Figment

No shotguns. High speed scout sniper rifles are already hip fired as such anyway. Which is ridiculous.

Infils need pistols, explosives, scouting and sabotage tools. That's it. That's literally it.

I agree even the future smgs would unbalance them further, unless they release more suit options other then a cloak. But that's kinda against the principal of the unit.

Ghoest9 · 2012-11-30, 09:27 AM

All you guys saying infs can be over powered either play on low graphics setting or are really horrible players.

Other than long distance sniping the class is totally gimp against any average player with high graphics settings.

Figment · 2012-11-30, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ghoest9

All you guys saying infs can be over powered either play on low graphics setting or are really horrible players.

Other than long distance sniping the class is totally gimp against any average player with high graphics settings.

No, without bragging I can claim I'm an incredibly good infiltrator (some on Werner said the best on NC, wouldn't know that nor would want to claim that since I know at least five others that would qualify for that as well, but I do know I'm one of the only people that could sneak in anywhere and everywhere) and as such probably 10x better than you'd ever be as an infil because you're thinking you need a shotgun to wreak havoc and wouldn't be completely overpowered.

No infiltrator player would ever ask for shotguns. And I mean none. Not a single one. People that ask for shotguns are shallow cloakwhores who'd do plasma-grenade and AMP killwhoring continuously, but those are not infiltrators because they never infiltrate enemy positions, they just roam the countryside looking for cheap kills.

I know what's OP in my hands and you're just drooling over the amount of kills you could get with a shotgun.

I'm interested in fair balance, you're just out for getting kills. I play everything on high graphics settings and have played infiltrator and agile/rexo with light shotgun (PS1 Sweeper) almost exclusively for 10 years.

And that's a shotgun with a lower TTK than what you'd get in PS2. I know how easy it is to gank people, flee and hide again in order to ambush once more. It wouldn't be fair. Plain as that.

If you can't use your intended stealth and ambush/positioning advantages and impact on the overal base battle to overcome your intended firepower and endurance disadvantage (which is your trade-off to make the cloak fair), then you're not worth to post on the topic of "what infiltrators need" and tbh an insult to infils everywhere.

"Horrible player"? Yes you are Ghoest9. Yes you are.

infy · 2012-11-30, 11:03 AM

gief pay2win shotgun for infil, only for credit card warriors so price should be about 150$

SpottyGekko · 2012-11-30, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Figment

No shotguns. High speed scout sniper rifles are already hip fired as such anyway. Which is ridiculous.

Infils need pistols, explosives, scouting and sabotage tools. That's it. That's literally it.

/salute

Dragonskin · 2012-11-30, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Figment

No infiltrator player would ever ask for shotguns. And I mean none. Not a single one. People that ask for shotguns are shallow cloakwhores who'd do plasma-grenade and AMP killwhoring continuously, but those are not infiltrators because they never infiltrate enemy positions, they just roam the countryside looking for cheap kills.

I know what's OP in my hands and you're just drooling over the amount of kills you could get with a shotgun.

Nice to be able to agree with Figment for once. Most of the infiltrators I ran with looked down on shotgun infiltrators because they were doing the class a diservice to begin with. Killing is nice, but it's not all infiltrator is designed to do. You are supposed to be hacking terminals preventing enemies from using their resources and placing motion trackers to help your allies advance.

Ghoest9 · 2012-11-30, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Figment

No, without bragging I can claim I'm an incredibly good infiltrator (some on Werner said the best on NC, wouldn't know that nor would want to claim that since I know at least five others that would qualify for that as well, but I do know I'm one of the only people that could sneak in anywhere and everywhere) and as such probably 10x better than you'd ever be as an infil because you're thinking you need a shotgun to wreak havoc and wouldn't be completely overpowered.

No infiltrator player would ever ask for shotguns. And I mean none. Not a single one. People that ask for shotguns are shallow cloakwhores who'd do plasma-grenade and AMP killwhoring continuously, but those are not infiltrators because they never infiltrate enemy positions, they just roam the countryside looking for cheap kills.

I know what's OP in my hands and you're just drooling over the amount of kills you could get with a shotgun.

I'm interested in fair balance, you're just out for getting kills. I play everything on high graphics settings and have played infiltrator and agile/rexo with light shotgun (PS1 Sweeper) almost exclusively for 10 years.

And that's a shotgun with a lower TTK than what you'd get in PS2. I know how easy it is to gank people, flee and hide again in order to ambush once more. It wouldn't be fair. Plain as that.

If you can't use your intended stealth and ambush/positioning advantages and impact on the overal base battle to overcome your intended firepower and endurance disadvantage (which is your trade-off to make the cloak fair), then you're not worth to post on the topic of "what infiltrators need" and tbh an insult to infils everywhere.

"Horrible player"? Yes you are Ghoest9. Yes you are.

1 I didnt say infs needed to have shotguns.

2 Anyone can do fairly well as an inf mainly because many players play on 'low graphics."

3 I can sneak in anywhere almost - it isnt particularly useful to me or my team 90-95% of the time.
Mainly you do it by just understanding where people will be looking and by waiting for people in your way to move.
Helping your team win depends on how much you get accomplished per time.

4 Just in case you are talking about sneaking into sniper positions - as I originally stated I wasnt addressing that.

But none of that changes what I said.

So if you want to talk about me personally please go eat a bag of shit instead. Keep the crap to yourself.