Im fairly certain that now of the fore grips have any effect at all after testing.

Ghoest9 · 2013-01-17, 11:35 AM

EDIT: DONT have any effect

I dont have an advanced means to do a statistical test but after a lot of shooting side by side patterns on the walls I can see no effect all from mounting either a grip or an advanced grip.

-Both ADs and hip(I mostly tested ADS though)

-I tested on both balanced pattern guns and on guns with right or left recoil.
Its especially noticeable with the direction recoil guns that the patterns still move on the same vector.

Shumkaun on official forum made me wonder about this when he found it with the serpent and posted pics of the patterns.
http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/i...parsion.79880/

It looks like the the fore grips arent simply of marginal use, they appear to beare a total waste.

maradine · 2013-01-17, 12:29 PM

File a bug.

belch · 2013-01-17, 12:33 PM

I assumed it was just such a small benefit that it barely mattered. That, or my aim just sucks.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that noticed.

ShadetheDruid · 2013-01-17, 12:45 PM

Another question would be why there's forward grip (and compensator) options for weapons that aren't automatic.

belch · 2013-01-17, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by ShadetheDruid

Another question would be why there's forward grip (and compensator) options for weapons that aren't automatic.

Well, theoretically speaking, both would be of benefit in rapid semi-auto firing mode. A quicker reacquisition of sight picture mainly.

Ghoest9 · 2013-01-17, 12:50 PM

Well the compensator makes sense on many semi-autos. I wish my slug gun had one. It seems to significantly help my scout rifle(just based on game play).

ShadetheDruid · 2013-01-17, 12:53 PM

I did try out the compensator with my Warden a while ago just to see if it would make the dot return to the target quicker, but I didn't really notice any change when I tested it.

belch · 2013-01-17, 12:56 PM

Yep, that seems to be the issue. Unless they change it, kind of a waste of certs.

ShadetheDruid · 2013-01-17, 01:07 PM

It would also be pretty nice if you could get forward grips on sniper rifles and reduce the sway, or something like that. I mean, I don't know how useful that would be, but it would be better than them doing nothing.

MrBloodworth · 2013-01-17, 01:16 PM

It does have an effect, it makes you hold the gun rather awkward.

krnasaur · 2013-01-17, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ShadetheDruid

I did try out the compensator with my Warden a while ago just to see if it would make the dot return to the target quicker, but I didn't really notice any change when I tested it.

I did. But it took the compensator and the foregrip for me to notice a diffence

RykerStruvian · 2013-01-17, 01:42 PM

Like others I just figured it was such a small benefit that it wasn't very noticeable. Try testing with a Gauss SAW and the advanced foregrip, supposedly it does make a difference.

Wahooo · 2013-01-17, 01:52 PM

I think it makes a difference, but the difference is too small to really see in testing in this way. A small % change and a small number is not much. It may lead to one extra bullet hitting the target though which could be the difference between a kill and getting killed.

Remember sidegrades. No single cert was supposed to make the weapons that much better and foregrips and compensators don't have much downside.

ShadetheDruid · 2013-01-17, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Wahooo

Remember sidegrades.

I thought that only applied to things you could by with SC and not things you could only get with certs? I mean, you can get some pretty nifty things for certs only that are definitely upgrades (even on weapons).

Zoealleyne · 2013-01-17, 03:18 PM

I have the advanced grip on my Gauss saw, I notice a night and day change