Galaxies set to launch this month

[Onizuka]

Originally posted by simba
hes just saying wot he feels about PS, wots wrong with that?

let me get this straight..... YOU are defending tek??? oh boy oh boy

[simba]

Originally posted by Onizuka
let me get this straight..... YOU are defending tek??? oh boy oh boy

it is not me who cant take crap taken by someone who dont like the same game as u do, so yes.

also 4 any1 whos interrested, a new (I think) SWG movie is out
http://swvault.ign.com/articles/425/425301p1.html

And I dont have any idea why hamma hasnt closed this thread yet.

[Hamma]

This thread isnt breaking any rules.

And why did you bump it?

[Airlift]

Originally posted by simba
couldent agree with u more. And I dont really know how u can call the "weapons" in the game weapons coz they dont look like weapons, they dont shoot like weapons and so on.

Suck it, Trebeck.
I answered his points directly and he chose to pretend like I avoided them.

[shootx]

i'll stay outta choosing sides for this one.... the skill system is pretty kool........but swg needs alot more fixs b4 it comes out.......cough cough lets hope it's release doesn't turn out like EVE's release cough cough........dam eine learn to cover your mouth.....i think i cought what u had

[Strygun]

I didn't read this whole thread because it's 7am and I didn't really feel like it, however I wanted to make this comment:

Anyone else noticing a trend? Weren't people this excited over PS? And then when it was released, all the people who were excited about it began to complain and list every problem with the game. Lag, balance, graphics, etc etc etc. From what I understand from *very* trusty sources, is that this game won't be near ready for release when they say it will be. The amount of complaining about lag or balance or any kind of changes will be immense.

I'm just going to watch this game from a corner in a..*cough* galaxy far far away*.

I doubt it will make it anywhere.

[TekDragon]

I'm just going to watch this game from a corner in a..*cough* galaxy far far away*.

Laaaame.


And thanks Simba for not insulting and flaming me just because I didnt type "PlanetSide is the best game in the world and doesnt have any problems or lackings".

[Chryse]

Originally posted by Strygun
Anyone else noticing a trend? Weren't people this excited over PS? And then when it was released, all the people who were excited about it began to complain and list every problem with the game.

The problem is that hype gets people all worked up about a game, sometimes a few years ahead of time, and that people let their imagination take over, thus forming expectations that can never truly be realized.

Nothing destroys a game faster than raised and, sometimes, unrealized expectations. That's what my experience has shown me, anyway.

[TekDragon]

I have to diagree. Personally, i believe what makes a bad game is lazy game developers who dont give a shit about the quality of the game they put out, so long as they get their paycheck.

That laziness is why i didnt like Asherons Call 2. That laziness is why im unhappy with PlanetSide.

Maybe its not the devs fault. Maybe its the marketing staff's fault for saying "Hey, put out a game with pretty graphics and absolute shit for content and we can charge $13 a month on top of a $50 box price!!".

Developers should have pride for the games they make. Its why Ultima Online was so great. Its why Half Life, Halo, and Tribes were great, and its why people are looking forward to the sequels.

Making a game just to collect a paycheck is just wrong. Im sad thats what Sony has decided to use as its business model.

[Grunt]

CONTENT does NOT make a game good or bad. Each individual makes up their own mind about every specific game they play. Is it fun or not? That's a very hard thing to describe to somebody and everybody's opinion is different.

If a game is fun, you pay the money and play it. If it's not you don't. It's that simple. From the looks of it SWG will be even buggier that PS was at launch, and of course PS WAS buggy. No doubt about it.

SWG will succeed on the basis of the license.. even if the game itself sucks people will still play it. I'm a huge starwars fan but nothing in that game is hugely different than any other damn RPG on the market. The genre is just too repeitive nowadays and there's no innovation. Kind of like how every RTS game is the same thing now.

Planetside doesn't really innovate either. It's just a FPS with more people. Which is what I want and what I think is fun. So I play it.

Now if you're done trolling just for the sake of trolling, you can take the rest of your opinions and shove them up your hairy wookie *****

[Airlift]

This thread will never die... Flame springs eternal.

[TekDragon]

CONTENT does NOT make a game good or bad.

Let me get this straight. You tell me that my argument of: "If PS had more content (ie: bases, weapons, strategies, stuff to fight over, etc) it would be a better game and worth the money", is NOT valid because:

1. Content does not make a good game.
2. Its impossible for anyone to say what will make a good game because everyone has different opinions.

First of all, let me say that your theory invalidates the existance of all game reviewing magazines and sites in existance. If I cant say "Ok, this game has shit for content and isnt worth $13 a month" how come a game reviewer can?

Second of all, let me say that if I ever enter the marketing world with a shitty product, you will be the first person i call [SOB] Grunt. I will charge you exorbitant amounts of money for a product worth a tenth of that. You will gleefully pay me because "content does not make a good game". *snicker*
I think marketing staffs have names for people like you... they call them "suckers".

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I'm a huge starwars fan but nothing in that game is hugely different than any other damn RPG on the market. The genre is just too repeitive nowadays and there's no innovation. Kind of like how every RTS game is the same thing now.

Then, after making the above point (which i so happily counter-pointed), you then make a judgement on SWG based on *gasp* CONTENT. Im not an english major.. but i believe we call that "Irony". Im also not a social science major.. but i believe we also call that "being a hypocrite".

Besides, what crack pipe are you smoking from?

Heres a list of the skill sets (called professions) in Star Wars Galaxies (note these are only the beggining professions. The devs have promised several more soon after release):

Artisan, Brawler, Entertainer, Marksman, Medic, Scout, Architect, Armor Smith, Bio Engineer, Bounty Hunter, Carbineer, Chef, Combat Medic, Commando, Creature Handler, Dancer Doctor, Droid Engineer, Image Designer, Merchant, Musician, Fencer, Pistoleer, Pikeman, Ranger, Rifleman, Smuggler, Squad Leader, Tailor, Teras Kasi, Swordsman, and Weaponsmith.

Each of those professions contain 18 skills. Each of those skills paths give you bonuses to your skills, commands, abilities, and knowledge (schematics).

Just as an example i will pick a skill at random from the.. 558 skills available.

Expert Counter-Sniping Techniques:
Skill Mods:
Block +5
Defense Vs. Blind +10
Defense Vs. Dizzy +10
Defense Vs. Posture Change +30
Defense Vs. Stun +10
Commands and Abilities Gained:
Flushing Shot 2 (Ability)

[SOB]Grunt. I dont know about you, but 558 unique skills, each of which offer new abilities and skills.... thats what i fucking call content. Thats what i call a dev team that isnt sitting on their ass waiting for the next paycheck.

You can sit there and defend PS till your blue in the face. . You can defend its 5 fucking base designs for the entire world. You can defend its "3 unique weapons per empire" BS. You can defend the fact that every time you log on you do the same damn crap every time.

I was hoping for more from a MMOFPS. I was expecting something more to do than:

• Spawn
• Rush enemy base
• Die
• Repeat till base is captured

I was expecting real strategies and fights over terrains. I was picturing massive vehicle battles over broken mountains. Instead I get to zerg rush a fucking base with my squad over and over until we disable the spawn tubes. *insert sigh here*

Maybe im an idiot for actually wanting more for the fact that im paying more. Maybe some of you are right. Perhaps paying more for the same old shit (possibly less of the same old shit, we dont even get jetpacks) is the way of the world now.

Pardon me while I go bang my head into a wall at how weve fallen.

[TekDragon]

Powerflux, can you please remove the pic? Its f'ing up the size of the thread making it hard to read people's posts. Thanks.

[Onizuka]

i could care less if this thread ever dies and i dont know why anyone would want it too. its quite amusing actually

contributing to the current debate:

Truthfully, to someone who has a lot of money or places a relatively low importance on money in general, it takes very little to justify a $200 expenditure.

i agree with airlift totally and especially on this point. Teks logic falls short in many area of which airlift has already pointed out.
Even someone who places much value on money, over the course of a year (and it is doubtfull the person will play that much) 200 bucks still justifys the expenditure.

I would guess this has to do with game addiction

[TekDragon]

Oni. I cant see what you write, but i can see when your the latest poster on a thread.

Its interesting cause i NEVER see anyone reply directly to you, or quote you. If it wasnt for the fact that the thread gets bumped and it says "Latest poster: onizuka", i wodnt know you existed.

Im saying this cause im 99% sure you either just insulted me, or you posted something that contributes abolutely zilch to the current debate, thus spamming (which you know i hate).

I dunno why i wrote this. Im bored and I thought it was funny. Im willing to lay down $20 that Oni's last post was less than 50 words (im sure im being generous there, its prob 10-20) and contributed zero points on the current debate.

Someone tell me if im wrong