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2012-05-06, 02:50 PM | [Ignore Me] #136 | |||
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If I want to pay to look like an asshat, then players would treat me like an asshat. If I want to pay to look like I am super serious about then game, then I want to be treated like I am super serious about the game. If players who "didn't care" really didn't then why would skins be a market in the first place? Last edited by ArmedZealot; 2012-05-06 at 02:54 PM. |
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2012-05-06, 02:53 PM | [Ignore Me] #137 | ||
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The value of anything to a buyer is only what they'd be willing to any for it. If they value it equal to or higher than the asking price, they will buy it. If the asking price is too much, they won't.
Knowing that people see these things increases their value - because that s the ONLY purpose they serve to the buyer. Knowing that % of users won't see it decreases it's value. We're not talking about buying a new gun which gives some gameplay difference since those items will be purchasable for resources, we are talking purely about cosmetic items. If you remove that function, they have nothing else - no other function - ergo, they have zero value. I've said it before and will again, if your $10 purchase negates my $20 purchase (or 10 other players $2 purchase) then it does not make economic / business sense to offer it. |
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2012-05-06, 02:57 PM | [Ignore Me] #138 | ||||
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Are you saying I would be jealous? For me, it's a matter of taste, not money. And if a person did buy it for reasons of jealousy, then they are still paying money to support the game. Once they get the money they might buy the skin as well and then unhide it. How does this affect you at all either way? Does it really matter as long as the game is continuing to be supported? And you wouldn't look different to anyone other than myself. I care for my own personal gameplay experience, not because I want to slight you in any way. I would only block skins I personally felt didn't belong in the game. If I was forced to deal with and see them, they wouldn't improve my gameplay experience in any way. They'd simply make me wonder why the devs made such an, in my opinion, poor decision.
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2012-05-06, 03:02 PM | [Ignore Me] #139 | |||
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You may or may not have turned those options off. I wouldn't know you had or hadn't because you wouldn't have told anyone. But the money I might spend might be effectively useless. So I just won't buy anything in the first place. If you were forced to deal with me it wouldn't make a difference because you "don't care", as you admit. But I still would have spent my money. Last edited by ArmedZealot; 2012-05-06 at 03:09 PM. |
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2012-05-06, 03:04 PM | [Ignore Me] #140 | |||
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And you will never have a zero value situation as there will always be other players who enjoy the skin you've bought and will have it enabled. Those are the only people you'd be gaining value from in the first place. You neither lose nor gain anything from such an option while those who dislike the skins do gain something. It's a pure gain towards the overall enjoyment of the game by all players. |
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2012-05-06, 03:08 PM | [Ignore Me] #141 | ||||
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2012-05-06, 03:10 PM | [Ignore Me] #142 | |||||||
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2012-05-06, 03:13 PM | [Ignore Me] #143 | |||
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And I just want to spend my money, I don't really care if you think it is wasteful or not. Your opinion of what I spend my money on isn't terribly important. What is, is how much money devs make off skins. Last edited by ArmedZealot; 2012-05-06 at 03:20 PM. |
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2012-05-06, 03:19 PM | [Ignore Me] #144 | |||
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The only barrier I'm seeing is that for some reason you and the others think you lose value if I and those who think like me can't see your skins. I'm trying to make it clear that you don't! I will treat you the same regardless, so you have already lost whatever value you think you'd have gained from me. Therefore, there is only value to be gained, both for my enjoyment and for the developer's pockets, by giving me an option to hide them. |
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2012-05-06, 03:19 PM | [Ignore Me] #145 | ||
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Im really hoping that the dev team will vet these items before they get made and put into the cash shop. I dont want to see too much silliness either. Though it might be fun to say "Focus Fire the Lime green Max wearing the chicken suit!!"
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2012-05-06, 03:32 PM | [Ignore Me] #146 | |||
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What if its 10%, or 25%? Or more than that? This how much potential revenue the game loses, there's no sense in investing costly developer-hours into something that will lose you money. And, if it's just you - 0.01% - then I'm afraid you're still shit out of luck, because there's equally no sense spending time and money on a feature for a such a tiny minority. Last edited by Kipper; 2012-05-06 at 03:41 PM. |
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2012-05-06, 03:52 PM | [Ignore Me] #148 | ||
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Except that players won't know how many or which players have chosen to opt out unless SOE releases the numbers on it, which I can't imagine they'd ever do. I also don't imagine the players who opt out are going to spend tons of time talking it in game or on the forums, since they'll be happy playing the game the way they want. Frankly, if you're scared away from purchasing a vanity item because you think an unspecified number of people may not see it, you've got some problems outside of the game you need to deal with.
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2012-05-06, 03:52 PM | [Ignore Me] #149 | ||||
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And, one thing I've learned over the years is that if someone feels a certain way they most likely aren't alone. And the system would be designed that it could be used to hide different skins depending on each player's tastes.
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2012-05-06, 04:00 PM | [Ignore Me] #150 | |||
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"If you disagree with me you must be messed up in the head!" |
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