Originally Posted by Grognard
This leaves my pick: Engineer.
1. Class focus is non-ammo dependant.
2. Support minded players are attracted to this class.
3. Resupply, and repair are not antithetical, rather complimentary.
4. They repair more than just vehicles, so should be interfaced with infantry also.
5. Nanites are already part of their tools, and are easily converted to ammo, too.
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All the classes can hoard if the player wishes so. I already explained why hoarding wouldn't be beneficial even for so called "ammo-dependent" classes. They will have more chances to survive and capture a base and gain access to supply terminal even if they
Engy is good pick however not necessarily the only one suitable.
1. Don't see hard reason why ammo-dependence should be absolute counter-indication. Since HA most prominent feature distinguishing that class is being able to to engage vehicles I don't think that giving them only anti-infantry ammo packs to carry them makes them OP.
Due to mechanics how the ammo pack currently work they would provide ammo accessible to other even when hoarding - that is my main problem with LA (LA will jump on the roof or somewhere else out-of-reach to other to resupply while HAs can't do that thus ammo pack they drop won't be unavailable to other classes).
2. True but they have plenty of support roles to do, giving some limited support function (like carrying 1-2 ammo packs) to other classes wouldn't end the world. Engies with their Supply Terminals would still be the "numero uno" in resupplying.
3. Only that Engies don't only repair everything, they set up mines, covers, supply terminals, turrets etc... I really think they have more than enough support to do.
4. They are already interfaced with infantry since they do task described in point 3. If they are given the role of only Ammo supplier that means they will have to operate more on the front lines to resupply classes like HA and not in the background providing support. I believe that most Engy choose that roles since they don't want to be directly in the heavy firefights and as a class are least prepared for such tasks (even Medics will be able to heal themselves and thus increase their survival in those kind of situations). Engies are not a front line class and that and having most abilities anyway makes me think they shouldn't be given this role. Even Medics could actually be better the more I think about it.
5. Converting Nanites to Ammo would mean having unlimited supply of Ammo if nanite count isn't limited, otherwise it would be stupid to limit ammo packs to 1 or 2 at the time (per spawn/resupply). On the other side if you limit the nanite count and make it resupplyable on terminals I doubt that that many Engies would bother to resupply others since they would need their Nanites for more important tasks like repairs and making turrets and other stuff.
Originally Posted by Electrofreak
Someone else actually employing logic here... thank you sir!
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Other words for "thank you employing logic I like"....
Give me one serious reason why HA shouldn't have few Ammo packs under conditions I stated in OP. I will accept if you make me see a major flaw in this concept.
Originally Posted by Electrofreak
The majority of the arguments to have it on HA are because HA need a lot of ammo, which makes little sense as was pointed out; it'll only encourage hoarding.
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This is serious oversimplification just go through my posts and you will see that that isn't only nor main argument or simply choose to ignore them like you did with this statement. Saying that it will encourage hoarding make no sense too since they should have limited number of Ammo packs. They could hog (we were using the wrong word here, me too) it for themselves (refuse to share) however in a way it currently works (everyone in vicinity is resupplied) it wouldn't be completely possible nor it would be beneficial in long runs since having two firing guns (player) instead of one increases your survival rate far more than hogging the ammo for yourself.
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