Higby Streamed PlanetSide2 on Twitch - Page 10

Envenom · 2012-07-09, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Accuser

<--- one more vote against HA driving tanks and flying aircraft
Honestly, I don't think HA should be able to gun either. Otherwise we'll have gunners on anti-infantry turrets that just jump out to shoot rockets when an enemy tank shows up.

Disagree. Sorry. I remain a fan of the BF system. Nothing is stopping the next guy from doing the same. Quickens gameplay. Also, who wants to play HA if you can't pilot vehicles????

Pennybagz · 2012-07-09, 10:47 PM

Man, what's up with those tracks coming from the Vanguard and quickly disappearing? Looked quite jarring.

Trimm · 2012-07-09, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Reefpirate

And any ideas about Higby's humping technique? It looked like he was trying to hand-to-hand combat with that Lightning tank. Any ideas??

He was placing C4 on the Lightning. What was in his hand is the detonator. He placed one or two packs of C4 and then turned around to run away, unfortunately being killed before he could detonate.

The same tactic was used by TotalBiscuit in his first PS2 video: - skip to 1:50 in.

Reefpirate · 2012-07-09, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Trimm

He was placing C4 on the Lightning. What was in his hand is the detonator. He placed one or two packs of C4 and then turned around to run away, unfortunately being killed before he could detonate.

The same tactic was used by TotalBiscuit in his first PS2 video: 302 Found - skip to 1:50 in.

Nice! Lol. I saw him throw the same thing later on in this newest vid, so I assumed it was a frag or something. That makes more sense now.

Originally Posted by Envenom

Disagree. Sorry. I remain a fan of the BF system. Nothing is stopping the next guy from doing the same. Quickens gameplay. Also, who wants to play HA if you can't pilot vehicles????

I tend to agree with you here, with one exception. If you put delays on entry and exit of vehicles (as I'm sure they will), then I don't care if HA's can pilot or not. Like you said, the enemy can do it too, but also you're trading something off to be HA-in-tank so it can be balanced... ie. you could be engi-in-tank or LA-in-tank which would have their own advantages.

Also, there's a risk-reward for how long you try to stay in the tank (this will be even moreso with entry/exit delays). Do you stay a bit longer and use the more powerful tank gun one more time but risk being totally blown up, or do you decide to bail out early and trade one final large tank blast for maybe one or two AV rockets?

Time is a resource and so is opportunity, so it's not simply 'lol I get extra AV firepower if I go HA-in-tank'.

Xyntech · 2012-07-09, 10:57 PM

I'll probably almost never fly as HA, but it's absurd all of the people who are freaking out about it. Making it take a little longer to jump out of the tank is fine, but considering how we have yet to see a rocket launcher take out a tank or an enemy aircraft in a one to one duel, what exactly is the problem? You don't like that style of gameplay? Well it clearly isn't very effective in this game, so just kill the moron, laugh at them, and move on. If they succeed in using it to finish you off, maybe you should have been more careful, but I seriously doubt that's going to happen in most situations.

We've already seen that there are certs like "quick exit" for vehicles, so presumably normal exit speeds will be at least somewhat longer. Tradeoffs should balance that out nicely, and unless HA's AV gun gets a huge buff, this will be a non issue in PS2.

Littleman · 2012-07-09, 11:02 PM

Don't forget directional armor. An HA guy is probably essentially wasting rockets shooting at the front of a tank, which might I add, the Mag-Rider is designed to keep directed towards its target. Good ol' VS engineering, minimizing weaknesses where ever it can.

Hell, the prowler attacking the front of Higby's vanguard pretty much only accomplished denting the front bumper.

Burnzblood · 2012-07-10, 12:01 AM

Not sure if anyone noticed this, but one of my favorite parts of the footage is when hes going up against the Magrider with the Lightning. He jumps out of the Lightning and pulls out some good 'ol fashion AV.

The Magrider makes clean work of him, as he is using the sights of the rocket launcher...and as he is taken out THE SIGHTS FALL TO THE GROUND AS HIS CHARACTER HITS THE DIRT!!

Just the little detail like that that make this game great...

Also, notice the leaves blowing in the wind on those amazing trees?? ROFL WoW trees...ownt!

Reefpirate · 2012-07-10, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Burnzblood

Not sure if anyone noticed this, but one of my favorite parts of the footage is when hes going up against the Magrider with the Lightning. He jumps out of the Lightning and pulls out some good 'ol fashion AV.

The Magrider makes clean work of him, as he is using the sights of the rocket launcher...and as he is taken out THE SIGHTS FALL TO THE GROUND AS HIS CHARACTER HITS THE DIRT!!

Just the little detail like that that make this game great...

Also, notice the leaves blowing in the wind on those amazing trees?? ROFL WoW trees...ownt!

Yep after watching that Lighting/Magrider/HA battle several times in a row, I think that's my second favorite part.

My favorite is when Higby finds a TR infiltrator near the control point, starts shooting at him, but then Higby's teammate walks right in front of him totally oblivious, and Higby is all like 'OMG gtfo of my way there's an INFILTRATOR BEHIND YOU'. Infiltrator eventually dies, but I can see having lots of fun as Infiltrator

Burnzblood · 2012-07-10, 12:24 AM

Lol yea, there was a point where Higby also got stuck in some rocks while TR infils were sniping him up good, that was funny.

SnipeGrzywa · 2012-07-10, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Envenom

Disagree. Sorry. I remain a fan of the BF system. Nothing is stopping the next guy from doing the same. Quickens gameplay. Also, who wants to play HA if you can't pilot vehicles????

Ummm.... Ask the 100's of players that did that in PS1? Seriously, if you can have your heavy hitters drive, what's the point in transport vehicles? The balance to this game is trade offs. Want to drive? Then can't jump out and run into a building in reinforced armor. Want to boost your armor/weapons? Get in a transport.

Not to mention the realistic part.... Every been in a tank? Barely get in there with body armor, let alone pouches and rockets.

Rockstone · 2012-07-10, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

It's the newest Build guys, granted we all know this but many of you seem to be judging the overall experience of what the game will be, please dont. This is just an alpha build we were allowed to see and by critiquing it, we're not going to get another one. So please be appreciative.

As long as we're not being entitled jerks about it, I think they appreciate our feedback.

Goldeh · 2012-07-10, 02:06 AM

Will there be uploads of it soon?

azoren · 2012-07-10, 02:18 AM

Furber · 2012-07-10, 02:26 AM

Couldn't help but notice that vehicle combat seems to have slowed down, maybe even a little slower on the infantry combat. Good job devs, you guys are amazing!

Red Beard · 2012-07-10, 02:38 AM

Is there a recording of that stream anywhere? I missed it!