"Speeding it up"

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by The Kush

LOL
You can't compare BF, CoD, or Halo to the teamwork seen in the original planetside. Thats what the problem is. People like you don't understand what I mean by teamwork. Teamwork is having an organized outfit on team speak preparing for a mission and perfectly executing the outfits goals because everyone puts the outfit before themselves. This is not something you can understand without playing the original ps.

Please don't make it sound as if PS1 was the only game to ever promote teamplay, or that PS1 was the only game with "real" teamwork, because that's just elitist bullshit.

[The Kush]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

Please don't make it sound as if PS1 was the only game to ever promote teamplay, or that PS1 was the only game with "real" teamwork, because that's just elitist bullshit.

I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. It did however achieve a level of teamwork that hasn't been matched in any other game.

[Xyntech]

Originally Posted by The Kush

I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. It did however achieve a level of teamwork that hasn't been matched in any other game.

Level of teamwork in terms of scale, yes, Planetside us unmatched. Level of teamwork in terms of cooperation and putting the team ahead of yourself, no, that happens in any good team of players in a game that has any support of tactical play.

Being one of the larger FPS games after Planetside, Battlefield is actually a good place to find (somewhat) similar experiences to Planetside, even if they pale in comparison to the scale.

Of course, if PS2 achieves their target of 2000 players per continent instead of PS1's 500, PS2 will dwarf the first games scale and perhaps make PS2 players mock the first games pitiful lack of scope. So lets not be too quick to LOL at players from other games.

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by The Kush

I didn't say that so don't put words in my mouth. It did however achieve a level of teamwork that hasn't been matched in any other game.

You are saying it, you are saying that PS1 is/was the only game with "proper" teamwork/teamplay.

I'd really like to know what makes PS1 superior to any other game that involves working together in a team.


Edit: Just read Xyntechs post and in scale I'd like to name EvE, yes it ain't a shooter, shouldn't matter, has bigger scale in teamwork/teamplay than PS1.

[goneglockin]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

That's only because in the last few years betas stopped being betas and turned into "check out how awesome our game is"-demos, easily seen in how often you can get into betas nowadays just by preordering.

I complained about the BF3 "demo" on the BF forums and OMG I never heard the end of it. IT's A BETA YOU NOOB!!! ZOMG! I said, the game was releasing in 3 weeks. It is very likely already shrinkwrapped on a pallet in a warehouse somewhere. It's a demo, eat me I said.

I think maybe 1 person had a nagging thought that maybe this was in fact a demo, even though it was being called a "beta" and then went back to calling me a noob.

It went rather well.

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by goneglockin

I complained about the BF3 "demo" on the BF forums and OMG I never heard the end of it. IT's A BETA YOU NOOB!!! ZOMG! I said, the game was releasing in 3 weeks. It is very likely already shrinkwrapped on a pallet in a warehouse somewhere. It's a demo, eat me I said.

I think maybe 1 person had a nagging thought that maybe this was in fact a demo, even though it was being called a "beta" and then went back to calling me a noob.

It went rather well.

Man, I kinda dug that dem...beta showed how well balanced even the smaller maps were, with each side having totally equal starting points and like no avantage at all in any way.

Good stuff, proper beta.

[ArmedZealot]

Originally Posted by goneglockin

I complained about the BF3 "demo" on the BF forums and OMG I never heard the end of it. IT's A BETA YOU NOOB!!! ZOMG! I said, the game was releasing in 3 weeks. It is very likely already shrinkwrapped on a pallet in a warehouse somewhere. It's a demo, eat me I said.

I think maybe 1 person had a nagging thought that maybe this was in fact a demo, even though it was being called a "beta" and then went back to calling me a noob.

It went rather well.

I think there is going to be rather large difference between the battlefield 3 beta and what PS2 beta will be.

It'd probably be closer to Tribes: Ascends beta. They share similar payment schemes. For a 60$ game it's important to release a Beta/Demo rather than a long run Beta.

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by ArmedZealot

For a 60$ game it's important to release a Beta/Demo rather than a long run Beta.

Yeah, a demo you more often then not have to pay for.

[ArmedZealot]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

Yeah, a demo you more often then not have to pay for.

Not like PS2 is any different in that respect. Will have to buy a Game Informer magazine or pay a few months for a dead game to get into beta.

[Toppopia]

Originally Posted by ArmedZealot

Not like PS2 is any different in that respect. Will have to buy a Game Informer magazine or pay a few months for a dead game to get into beta.

No you don't have to do that, it just maybe increases your chances of getting into beta by 0.0000000000001%

[Cosmical]

Originally Posted by ArmedZealot

For a 60$ game it's important to release a Beta/Demo rather than a long run Beta.

Wait...$60?? I thought it was free to play? I mean obviously cost is no issue on wether we will buy it.

[ArmedZealot]

Originally Posted by Toppopia

No you don't have to do that, it just maybe increases your chances of getting into beta by 0.0000000000001%

So much better.

[ArmedZealot]

Originally Posted by Cosmical

Wait...$60?? I thought it was free to play? I mean obviously cost is no issue on wether we will buy it.

Was talking about BF3 there. My bad for the bad formatting.

[goneglockin]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

Yeah, a demo you more often then not have to pay for.

More often that not post xbox360. I don't think 7 years of 360 negates more than a decade of PC shareware/demos.

[Baneblade]

The longer it takes to die, the less individual skill matters. This was no better evidenced than by BFRs where the least capable players could rain havoc on a battlefield with no need to fear anything not as tall as you were.

Decisions matter more when you have less room for mistakes.

PS2 will make many PS1 Elites cry.