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Old 2011-07-20, 08:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #166
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Re: YOU CAN PRE-ORDER PLANETSIDE 2!


Originally Posted by 2coolforu View Post
15 Vehcs, 2 Unique?

6 (MBT + Buggy) + AMS, + ATV (1-3 variants) + Galaxy + Reaver + Mossie + Liberator + Light tank + Deliverer + Scout Vehicle?

15 Right there
Possible, but I'm not sure.

I assumed the Sunderer would be dropped, but that creates a lack of a big ground transport vehicle. A Deli is nice (I switched certs between AMS and Deli back when I was playing) but an MBT-sized transport IFV (rather than a gianormous truck with useless guns) would be awesome.
I think Matt or Smed hinted that the AMS will be gone, since it was inconvenient for players to be limited to the single closest AMS in terms of spawn locations... The new spawn system still confuses me, but if the AMS is to be removed, the 14th vehicle may be a heavy ground transport, instead.

I also wasn't sure whether or not the Lightning (or its equivalent) will be dropped. It was a popular choice among players, though. The Wraith may be the 14th/15th vehicle instead of the Deli/Sunderer/Lightning, however. Or the generic ATV may become cloakable based on the skill tree... So many questions...

As for the "Scout Vehicle" I don't think it would make sense to include the Harrasser in PlanetSide 2. It was essentially the poor man's buggy/Skyguard. I would expect an AA buggy to be the last vehicle - somehow I can't imagine a Pounder with a flak launcher...

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Old 2011-07-20, 09:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #167
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Originally Posted by knaggsy View Post
I know what your saying and yes I would want that also but i would want it to be integrable with steam. I.E. Much like when you buy COD for example in the box it installs on steam.
I am curious why would you want it integral to steam, what would that add to it for you?
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Old 2011-07-20, 09:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #168
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I am curious why would you want it integral to steam, what would that add to it for you?
Steam has a nice friend interface and if it's on steam it will get more players.
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Old 2011-07-20, 09:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #169
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Steam has a nice friend interface and if it's on steam it will get more players.
Wow he must be a cyber ventriloquist, he answered that without moving his keyboard
You can run steam anyway if you want the friends list or overlay.
Also having steam as a digital distribution partner isnt the same as saying you would like the box, but for the install to be integral with steam.
So out of everything steam does I was/am curious which part of the functionality he was after specifically.
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Old 2011-07-20, 09:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #170
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I'm sure there will be marketing for PS2. Don't remember seeing any marketing for L4D or Crysis tbh. just a lot of articles on the internet...

Which by the way is happening with PS2 ^_^
Actually there were tons of ads for L4D 1&2, i used to see the commercials all the time. Crysis2 had some TV ads as well. Not to mention both had a bunch of ads on gaming sites and the like as well. Plus with L4D, its zombies so thats gonna get attention, and valve came in on L4D1 and anything valve touches is gonna get swarmed.

And you cant forget Steam. Being on there alone makes a huge difference look at the crysis 2 mappack It sold like crap cause it wasnt available on steam, most people didnt even know about it. Hopefully SoE doesnt go braindead like activision/EA and puts PS2 on Steam from day 1.
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Old 2011-07-20, 09:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #171
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My girlfriend would shake her titties at the guys here at our gamestop to ensure that I never knew planetside 2 existed if she could.... I'll trade ya......
Thats why i dont mess around with girls who just dont get it. My gf will be kickin ass and takin names right next to me. =D
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Old 2011-07-20, 09:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #172
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I saw commercials for L4D 2 but not for 1. And we're not talking about Crysis 2, we're talking about Crysis 1.
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Old 2011-07-20, 09:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #173
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Magriders will dominate the Sea...

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Easily balanced. Sea vessels would just have sizably more armor and firepower than land vehicles, and obviously much better speed on water than a mag. Much like the navy's hovercraft can be versatile and go land and sea, but they cant take on a cruiser or destroyer or really any water only attack ships.

Lets the mags keep the advantage but those who actually get watercraft which are limited to only water, will have the advantage. Pure watercraft are limited to water areas only and would need to be powerful in order to make up for their limited terrain usage. You would have water resources to gather and with decent range on the watercraft you could use them when assaulting anything near shores or on islands makin them a very unique and useful part of the game.

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Old 2011-07-20, 10:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #174
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Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml View Post
If people don't know about it, they can't purchase it.

20,000 was the most accurate yet unofficial max playerbase Planetside had ever seen in 2003. Though 20,000 in 2003 was friggin epic. It holds no torch to the current 2.9 million CONSTANTLY paying subscribers in world of worldcraft, which reached 7 million people in total.
Haha. Some people are way too into Steam. WoW isn't even avaiable on Steam. I do not see your point at all. Companies advertise all over to get their games sold. If Steam was so much better then everything else why do companies even stock in B&M stores or other online retailers?
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Old 2011-07-20, 10:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #175
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Going back a few pages to those asking "Why pre-order", some companies/stores use pre-orders to gauge how many non pre-order copies to bring in.

The more popular a game is, the more pre-orders there will (in theory) be and the companies will multiply that number by 'X' and get an estimate of how many off-the-street sales there will (again, in theory) be.

So if too many people take the stance of "I won't bother pre-ordering, I'll just stop by the store and pick it up", there won't be many copies to be had.

This, of course, only relates to off-line sales.
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Old 2011-07-21, 04:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #176
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Can't stores put up a pre-order page, even if they haven't made any communication with the distributors? I thought it was common practice actually. So why get excited over it?
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Old 2011-07-21, 05:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #177
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Originally Posted by FIREk View Post
WEAPONS: Players will be able to access more than 20 basic weapons, which can be customized to players' preference or purpose.
(the original had 18 weapons, at launch, that I could recall; does that mean the 3+ unaccounted for are more unique weapons, or for instance a few additional empire-independent assault rifles?)
Force-Blade
Chainblade
Mag-cutter
Beamer
Repeater
Mag-scatter
AMP
Suppressor
Punisher
Gauss
Cycler
Pulsar
Sweeper
Jackhammer
Lasher
MCG
Rocklet
Thumper
Phoenix
Striker
Lancer
Decimator
Bolt Driver
Frag grenade
Plasma grenade
Jammer grenade

That's 26 to start off with.
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Old 2011-07-21, 06:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #178
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One could argue that grenades, rocklets and the knives may not count as "unique weapons", it may refer to just actual firearms.

That being said, they are not bringing all that back, unless fe. the Cycler or Gauss rifle are still named that, but just look so very different (in the trailers/screenies)
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Old 2011-07-21, 07:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #179
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I'm going to be getting this game FACT!, but i've never understood people who pre-order a new game when it's only just fetting concrete information.Everyone to they're own i guess.
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Old 2011-07-21, 07:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #180
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Two things:

1) How does pre-ordering fit with the F2P part of the game? Will it be F2P until BR 5? until 10? At what point do we need a "boxed" copy or full paid for Steam copy, etc.

2) What, if any, "pre-order deals" do we foresee happening in the future? I am not a big fan of the bonus pre-order package idea, but it could yield a lot of extra TV ad time with deals from Gamestop and friends backing their version of the pre-order. Does the ecosystem of PS2 allow for "free glowing armbands" and "stickers" based on a pre-order package? (effectively a 3rd question, to what degree do we get to play dress up, outside of merits and the skill tree?)
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