News: YOU CAN PRE-ORDER PLANETSIDE 2! - Page 13

Brokinarrow · 2011-07-21, 09:09 AM

F2P usually refers to the game not requiring a monthly subscription. It'd be a really bad business model to just GIVE the game you've been working on the past few years away. I don't know of any games that are just given away without some kind of monthly subscription required.

Coreldan · 2011-07-21, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

F2P usually refers to the game not requiring a monthly subscription. It'd be a really bad business model to just GIVE the game you've been working on the past few years away. I don't know of any games that are just given away without some kind of monthly subscription required.

Free2play does refer to completely free games with no mandatory costs. At least nowadays it does.

It's most likely the business model of the future, cos it 1) draws more playerbase 2) usually creates more revenue due to cash shops.

Probably a prime example of current f2p games would be APB Reloaded, LotRO or perhaps Tibia.

FIREk · 2011-07-21, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Coreldan

One could argue that grenades, rocklets and the knives may not count as "unique weapons", it may refer to just actual firearms.

Hmmm... What if the MAX weapons are counted towards the total number of weapons? That would be 9 in total...

Death2All · 2011-07-21, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by FIREk

Hmmm... What if the MAX weapons are counted towards the total number of weapons? That would be 9 in total...

Assuming we have 3 MAXes each empire. With the way they're putting such an emphasis on classes and customization/specialization one can assume that we could possibly only have one MAX that you are able to specialize in a certain area.

I actually like this idea. It's preventive of MAX spam because you're forced to specialize in a certain role for your MAX. Rather than having UniMAX and being able to do everything at the cost of cert points.

morf · 2011-07-21, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Highwind

2) What, if any, "pre-order deals" do we foresee happening in the future? I am not a big fan of the bonus pre-order package idea, but it could yield a lot of extra TV ad time with deals from Gamestop and friends backing their version of the pre-order. Does the ecosystem of PS2 allow for "free glowing armbands" and "stickers" based on a pre-order package? (effectively a 3rd question, to what degree do we get to play dress up, outside of merits and the skill tree?)

I'm thinking they'll use preorder as a soft-release eventually. I.E. "pre-order now and play in beta until it's released!" - a lot of games doing this nowadays and they'll want as many players in beta as they can get. They simply can't release a game designed for thousands of players on one continent until they have tested thousands of players on one continent.

Whoknowswhat1 · 2011-07-21, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Highwind

2) What, if any, "pre-order deals" do we foresee happening in the future? I am not a big fan of the bonus pre-order package idea, but it could yield a lot of extra TV ad time with deals from Gamestop and friends backing their version of the pre-order. Does the ecosystem of PS2 allow for "free glowing armbands" and "stickers" based on a pre-order package? (effectively a 3rd question, to what degree do we get to play dress up, outside of merits and the skill tree?)

This is just speculation... but along side a beta, they may include a special weapon/cosmetic that would be unlocked in the game, but by pre-ordering you would get it earlier.

basti · 2011-07-21, 02:08 PM

Higby, as you are lurking, care to comment if this is official approved by SOE or just some common gamestop / amazon pre preorder stuff?

Bags · 2011-07-21, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Force-Blade
Chainblade
Mag-cutter
Beamer
Repeater
Mag-scatter
AMP
Suppressor
Punisher
Gauss
Cycler
Pulsar
Sweeper
Jackhammer
Lasher
MCG
Rocklet
Thumper
Phoenix
Striker
Lancer
Decimator
Bolt Driver
Frag grenade
Plasma grenade
Jammer grenade

That's 26 to start off with.

You can't count 3 identical knives as 3 different weapons. At least I'd hope they wouldn't.

**Malorn** · 2011-07-21, 02:32 PM

Smed said there would be "F2P elements" - he didn't say the game would be F2P in its most extreme form. In that context he could have been referring to no monthly subscription, or optional monthly subscription.

Paying for the base game is important to help stave off hackers, and it is consistent with popular retail FPS games (battlefield, CoD, unreal, etc). All of those are "F2P" after you buy the game itself.

And they also have said they aren't discussing the business model yet, which could mean its still being discussed. The retail price of the game though...that's standard for the industry so I don't see them making a drastic change there.

Death2All · 2011-07-21, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Malorn

Smed said there would be "F2P elements" - he didn't say the game would be F2P in its most extreme form. In that context he could have been referring to no monthly subscription, or optional monthly subscription.

Paying for the base game is important to help stave off hackers, and it is consistent with popular retail FPS games (battlefield, CoD, unreal, etc). All of those are "F2P" after you buy the game itself.

And they also have said they aren't discussing the business model yet, which could mean its still being discussed. The retail price of the game though...that's standard for the industry so I don't see them making a drastic change there.

Personally I'd prefer a subscription based game to a F2P because it deters hackers and it makes the game less dependent on a cash shop for revenue.

That's right SOE, I'd rather give you more money. I hope you're listening.

Bags · 2011-07-21, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by DeeTwoEh

Personally I'd prefer a subscription based game to a F2P because it deters hackers and it makes the game less dependent on a cash shop for revenue.

That's right SOE, I'd rather give you more money. I hope you're listening.

I dunno, I'm pretty sure that League of Legends makes, on average, far more than $15/mo from each player.

There was one guy who had spent like $1000 on LoL when it hadn't even been out for half a year.

Death2All · 2011-07-21, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I dunno, I'm pretty sure that League of Legends makes, on average, far more than $15/mo from each player.

There was one guy who had spent like $1000 on LoL when it hadn't even been out for half a year.

Nerd/Loser hybrids tend to flock to RPGs more than FPS'. I have some unfortunate people that I call my "friends" who have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on WoW for renames, server transfers etc. People who are insecure and have social issues play RPGs so it makes sense that they're constantly reinventing themselves on the internet and changing it up at the cost of all the money they've accumulated working at McDonalds.

An FPS gamer is more a shit-talker/loser hybrid. They feel the need to prove themselves at the cost of pride in most cases. Which worries me about what things they might choose to put in the cash shop.

Cash shop games tend to be huge imbalanced disasters as do SOE games. Mix the two of these together? N'oh my God.

Bags · 2011-07-21, 04:14 PM

Sweet mother of God...

Goku · 2011-07-21, 04:24 PM

SOE stated the cash shop is purely cosmetic. That solves what you are worried about in that area. Having to buy the game first then having a non monthly sub option after also solves the issue of any hackers getting into the game. PS2 needs a non monthly sub option to survive. If PS had one I am sure the population would of never gotten to such low levels.

Vanir · 2011-07-21, 09:39 PM

"The attendant hadn't actually heard of the game" I seriously hope SOE spends some money in putting up some ads for this game...