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Old 2012-07-16, 04:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #211
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Re: Are DICE Getting worried about planetside 2..


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LOL find me a single Multiplayer game with the destruction level of BFBC and BF3 game lol you will call on Redfaction lol because it will be the only ones but red factions suport How many players ? you have to remember that In frostbite and Bf games each piece of chunk and walls taken out by a explosion is a part of a data thats need to be send to all players in real time so the map will look the same for everyones after all building colapse or wall are taken out

I have never seen anyones making this playable for a online game DICE did it and it work pretty well

All the little BF hater in here make me laugh so much ignoring everything thats make BFBC and BF3 a unique game with unique gameplay and tactical destruction elements !

Red faction yeah its mostly a building colapse festival it suport like 8 players online and the gameplay is BAD !

If it was so easy to make destructible environement and making it playable why their is Not much games like this ? Just because they simply cant achive it

You do know that the destruction is all pre scripted right?There is nothing tactical about it,if that was the case you could blow a hole in ANY wall,not just the 3-4 that DICE let you.
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Old 2012-07-16, 05:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #212
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Re: Are DICE Getting worried about planetside 2..


Originally Posted by Stew View Post
LOL find me a single Multiplayer game with the destruction level of BFBC and BF3 game lol you will call on Redfaction lol because it will be the only ones but red factions suport How many players ? you have to remember that In frostbite and Bf games each piece of chunk and walls taken out by a explosion is a part of a data thats need to be send to all players in real time so the map will look the same for everyones after all building colapse or wall are taken out

I have never seen anyones making this playable for a online game DICE did it and it work pretty well

All the little BF hater in here make me laugh so much ignoring everything thats make BFBC and BF3 a unique game with unique gameplay and tactical destruction elements !

Red faction yeah its mostly a building colapse festival it suport like 8 players online and the gameplay is BAD !

If it was so easy to make destructible environement and making it playable why their is Not much games like this ? Just because they simply cant achive it
I'm sorry, are we supposed to take this post seriously? Especially with all the bad spelling mistakes and poor grammar?
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Old 2012-07-16, 05:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #213
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I'm sorry, are we supposed to take this post seriously? Especially with all the bad spelling mistakes and poor grammar?
It's a typical Stew post. He's not native-english, so you can't fault his spelling/grammar too badly.

And yes, he expects you to take it very seriously or he'll drop another wall o' incomprehensible text. It's his number #1 defense and very effective at that.
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Old 2012-07-16, 05:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #214
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it's a typical stew post. He's not native-english, so you can't fault his spelling/grammar too badly.

And yes, he expects you to take it very seriously or he'll drop another wall o' incomprehensible text. It's his number #1 defense and very effective at that.
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Old 2012-07-16, 05:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #215
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Old 2012-07-16, 05:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #216
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Old 2012-07-16, 06:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #217
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I play 9 different free to play games now - Why would I want to buy a game - except to say - Hey dude I just spent 60 bucks on this new game dude. The FTP model is going to kill the BTP games. And offer as much or better quality then the pay models.
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Old 2012-07-16, 06:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #218
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I play 9 different free to play games now - Why would I want to buy a game - except to say - Hey dude I just spent 60 bucks on this new game dude. The FTP model is going to kill the BTP games. And offer as much or better quality then the pay models.
It´s not true Maybe Multiplayer Games, yeah.
I would be more happy with a Boxed Version of PS2, same goes for RPG´s Single Player.Or FSP SP Games.
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Old 2012-07-16, 06:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #219
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Yup DICE is squirming. If PS2s gameplay is as tight as it looks in the vids then they really are screwed. Why in the hell would someone PAY for a 2.4km 64 player map when you can get 3x8km maps with 6k total players for free.
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Old 2012-07-16, 07:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #220
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If the date is accurate then this probably isn't a direct response, but I wouldn't be shocked if they were a little concerned. The major selling points of BF compared to its competition is basically "larger, more players, has vehicles". Planetside isn't so much beating them on those counts as it is loading them into a catapault and launching them directly into the core of the sun at the speed of light, which leaves them with just the destruction physics. I don't know about you, but "our buildings crumble a bit when you shoot at them" doesn't seem like as strong a selling point to me.

Even losing "only" their PC consumers would cost them millions of customers, not to mention trap them on the console where they're playing second fiddle to CoD.


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It's a typical Stew post. He's not native-english, so you can't fault his spelling/grammar too badly.
I'd like to know what language he does speak natively. I have a sneaking suspicion that he's not very good at that one either.
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Old 2012-07-16, 07:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #221
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Lmao anyone who thinks that this game will come CLOSE to touching major publisher's control of the FPS playing demographic is seriously delusional and puts way too much bias on their love for PC gaming. While the PC fanboy in me wants to believe it could hit that level, the realist in me says that's a naive and false view. Period.

The only large market that will make this game wildly profitable is F2P junkies. Everyone else is niche. Dads, normal guys and kids with no gaming rig are still buying call of duty For PS3 or BF4 for Xbox whether you think they will or not. No one is going to hear about how cool planetside is and buy a gaming rig to play it when they have an Xbox. Sorry. Wish things were different, because I love the concept and plan on playing FOREVER, , lol. Just being objective.
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Old 2012-07-17, 03:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #222
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Originally Posted by Sephirex View Post
It's a typical Stew post. He's not native-english, so you can't fault his spelling/grammar too badly.

And yes, he expects you to take it very seriously or he'll drop another wall o' incomprehensible text. It's his number #1 defense and very effective at that.
LOL..that made my day. Makes me wanna swap out his name in place of 4chan in my sig

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Lmao anyone who thinks that this game will come CLOSE to touching major publisher's control of the FPS playing demographic is seriously delusional and puts way too much bias on their love for PC gaming. While the PC fanboy in me wants to believe it could hit that level, the realist in me says that's a naive and false view. Period.

The only large market that will make this game wildly profitable is F2P junkies. Everyone else is niche. Dads, normal guys and kids with no gaming rig are still buying call of duty For PS3 or BF4 for Xbox whether you think they will or not. No one is going to hear about how cool planetside is and buy a gaming rig to play it when they have an Xbox. Sorry. Wish things were different, because I love the concept and plan on playing FOREVER, , lol. Just being objective.
I only think this will be the case for the first few years. PS2 will dominate the large scale FPS market on PC. SOE will hammer out all the bugs, and get the gameplay/balance tight. Then when the next gen consoles release you will see major hype about PS2 coming to console. Now will it support the 2000 players they are expecting on PC? Hard to tell, but even if they scale back to 750 per map most console players will go apeshit for it. Remember, it's a Sony game, Sony console, and Sony network. They will make it work if they think the money is there. We are just phase one.
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Old 2012-07-17, 08:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #223
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Originally Posted by OnexBigxHebrew View Post
Lmao anyone who thinks that this game will come CLOSE to touching major publisher's control of the FPS playing demographic is seriously delusional and puts way too much bias on their love for PC gaming. While the PC fanboy in me wants to believe it could hit that level, the realist in me says that's a naive and false view. Period.
You've created a perception of a personal condition of something. Then said its delusional for someone to compare their own personal perception of this condition, to their own personal standards?

No. Its delusional for someone to compare their standards on what 'touches' a a major publishers FPS, and what qualifies as getting close to it - to your standards as you are doing to theirs.

Its all an illusion you've just created without offering anything tangible to debate, and are now arguing over something that doesn't exist.

*snip* Just being objective.
Its just feeding into an argument without anything to argue over, I apologise if this coming across harsly but I am just trying to get you to step back and look at it. If its not facts and figures, or something that is there and tangible to hold or see, then its just perceptions and no one is right or wrong.

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Old 2012-07-17, 08:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #224
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You've created a perception of a personal condition of something. Then said its delusional for someone to compare their own personal perception of this condition, to their own personal standards?

No. Its delusional for someone to compare their standards on what 'touches' a a major publishers FPS, and what qualifies as getting close to it - to your standards as you are doing to theirs.

Its all an illusion you've just created without offering anything tangible to debate, and are now arguing over something that doesn't exist.



Its just feeding into an argument without anything to argue over, I apologise if this coming across harsly but I am just trying to get you to step back and look at it. If its not facts and figures, or something that is there and tangible to hold or see, then its just perceptions and no one is right or wrong.
You just found an overly wordy way of saying my statement is an opinion (my 'comparing my personal perceptions to my own standards') lol. This thread is dealing with forecasting, and sorry to tell you, but in a speculative video game forum there is rarely a 'right and wrong'. If you don't like what I have to say, fine. But let's not pretend some unreleased game's discussin forum is going to produce any scientific debate, especially when this thread is basically trying to predict what great effect a PC game will have against a company who's main product was already released with a huge amount of success.

It's a forum dude, everybody is just shitting their opinions or retweeting. Don't get so sad about it.
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Old 2012-07-17, 11:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #225
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Originally Posted by OnexBigxHebrew View Post
You just found an overly wordy way of saying my statement is an opinion (my 'comparing my personal perceptions to my own standards') lol. This thread is dealing with forecasting, and sorry to tell you, but in a speculative video game forum there is rarely a 'right and wrong'. If you don't like what I have to say, fine. But let's not pretend some unreleased game's discussin forum is going to produce any scientific debate, especially when this thread is basically trying to predict what great effect a PC game will have against a company who's main product was already released with a huge amount of success.

It's a forum dude, everybody is just shitting their opinions or retweeting. Don't get so sad about it.
Everything is opinion. Little need to state that. - You'll find some points that do have substance and others that don't have anything, like the man using sales figures, good solid post that to make a point. - Trying to help you see that nothing was there to disagree about, but calling people dellusional for doing what you are doing seemed odd . - If it didn't help to state that, my apologies again.

Little emotion in my post though.
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