PlanetSide Next Reaver Exclusive - Page 17

DviddLeff · 2011-02-10, 12:55 PM

Mock, check out my outfit overhaul for lots of ideas from both others and myself:
https://sites.google.com/site/planet...utfit-overhaul

Regarding a rapid single man transport vehicle; I am dead against it for the following reasons:

Makes the troop transports obsolete once people have the cert points for it
Makes all outdoor based combat pointless as the speed of the vehicles allows users to totally bypass any outdoor fighting.

As it is AA can only take out incoming air cav if it hangs around; even I can fly a Reaver successfully without getting killed too often. If your intention is to bail anyway there is practically nothing they can do to stop you unless you get intercepted on route by another aircraft and even then they will only be able to take out 1-2 of you if they are skilled before you are over the target.

Firefly · 2011-02-10, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by MockZero2

Something I would really like to see is a bit more influence on using the outfit point system. I remember early in the game when that was a big deal getting your outfit to the point where you could have a LOGO. It really gave everyone something to shoot for. It also made for a little celebration when you achieved it. After that though it didn't really matter. It would be nice if there were some things to really work towards like that. Maybe make it to where you get the points only by capturing bases. Then make it to where you get a bonus in points for how many continents you have locked.

I can't think of many idea for what to spend the points on. Maybe some OS buffs that last 24 hours. Really what would be cool is more stuff like the outfit Logo. Maybe some uniform schemes or something for everyone in your outfit. I think spending points on any kind of buff would have to be pretty darn substantial just to keep things balanced. but it would definitly give you a reason to keep those continent locks.

The biggest issue I see with it is the huge advantage the bigger outfits would have. So maybe if there was buffs make it to where it depends on how many people you have in the outfit. Like a certain buff would cost 500 pts per member. Making it a huge expense but i think it would have to be keep it balanced. Then make the Logo type stuff 20k points flat rate.

Let me know what you think or if any body has any ideas for incentives.

Ever play Warhammer:Age of Reckoning? Guilds obtained levels, and at certain levels they got certain things.

Bags · 2011-02-10, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

Ever play Warhammer:Age of Reckoning? Guilds obtained levels, and at certain levels they got certain things.

Wow does this, and it's really lame. It's pretty much guild or die.

otomotopia · 2011-02-10, 09:11 PM

In planetside, it's join an outfit or have significantly less fun, especially when we had 100+ people in a VoIP server co-ordinating.

But this is about the reaver screenshot, and its delicious and awesome and I can't wait for the next update. March is in two and a half weeks, so I'm guessing either a lot more Screenshots coming our way until then or a gameplay video sometime between now and the 28th.

Bags · 2011-02-10, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by otomotopia

In planetside, it's join an outfit or have significantly less fun, especially when we had 100+ people in a VoIP server co-ordinating.

But this is about the reaver screenshot, and its delicious and awesome and I can't wait for the next update. March is in two and a half weeks, so I'm guessing either a lot more Screenshots coming our way until then or a gameplay video sometime between now and the 28th.

I'm glad there are people like you in this world who can decide what I find more or less fun for me. Thanks dood!

otomotopia · 2011-02-10, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I'm glad there are people like you in this world who can decide what I find more or less fun for me. Thanks dood!

Soloing is fine in Planetside. Co-ordinating with 100 people is obviously preferred though, that's a big part of the MMO idea.

...you're not a people person, are you?

Bags · 2011-02-10, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by otomotopia

Soloing is fine in Planetside. Co-ordinating with 100 people is obviously preferred though, that's a big part of the MMO idea.

...you're not a people person, are you?

I'm not a zergfit person.

otomotopia · 2011-02-10, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I'm not a zergfit person.

Neither am I. That's why I joined an outfit instead of being a green dot. Ever participate in a co-ordinated combined arms strike? Because that's where Planetside really shined.

Bags · 2011-02-10, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by otomotopia

Neither am I. That's why I joined an outfit instead of being a green dot. Ever participate in a co-ordinated combined arms strike? Because that's where Planetside really shined.

In your opinion it really shined. In my opinion planetside really shines when you rush in with 10 people through the BG, flip the tubes and flip the hack. But that is my opinion, and I'm not presenting it like a fact.

otomotopia · 2011-02-10, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

In your opinion it really shined. In my opinion planetside really shines when you rush in with 10 people through the BG, flip the tubes and flip the hack. But that is my opinion, and I'm not presenting it like a fact.

That last jab was unnecessary and hypocritical considering this bit you said a few posts ago:

Or we could just leave it the way it is and the way the majority of players enjoy playing. Yeah.

as that is an opinion with no facts to back it up, as I personally despise that play style and others here have that same opinion.

Either way, being in an outfit just made organizing and executing that easier. And I do agree, that was very fun, equally fun as a gal drop on the roof. I do hope that the new reaver has those missile bays with hinges talked about earlier. That would rock, firing off psudo-sidewinders out of those bays. I can just picture it now XD

Aractain · 2011-02-11, 02:29 AM

Yeah. Options. Fun things, when you only have one option because its the best option the game design is flawed.

If the game isn't fun solo for a player who enjoys solo games - the game is broken.
If the game isn't fun because all your targets bail before you can fight them... :P

Seriously though tieing progression to outfits is a bad idea. Sure oufits should have some perks but nothing that becomes the reason you join an outfit for.

LordReaver · 2011-02-11, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Firefly

A number of helicopters, which can be considered VTOL, have skids. Did your aviation buffiness overlook that part?

Helicopters with skids usually have them because they can be cheaper, lighter, or have better aerodynamics for lifters in some cases. None of which should be an issue here.

My point is, wheels are usually more versatile.

Livefire · 2011-02-16, 06:48 AM

Thank god they finally made the Reaver a futuristic bladeless version of the apache helicopter I have been asking for this forever. 2 seats, the pilot in the back the able to fire dumb fire rockets out of pods on the wing hardpoints like before, the gunner in the front manning a zooming easy to aim self stabilized 30mm auto cannon with please explosive rounds and a laser guided easy to aim one hit one kill missile.

Originally Posted by LordReaver

Helicopters with skids usually have them because they can be cheaper, lighter, or have better aerodynamics for lifters in some cases. None of which should be an issue here.

My point is, wheels are usually more versatile.

Yes I said this as soon as I saw it I am very pleased with the fact they put wheels on the galaxy but they should also do the same on the reaver and mosi. Plus lets hope they made them retractable with doors that make smooth belly craft when they are retracted that looks so cool the newest helicopters like the panther by Eurocopter. If you look closely at the pictures it looks like it has the retractable doors to do this.

Originally Posted by Firefly

I think this is what Smedley meant when he said making the Galaxy more pivotal. The current style of play is to get a bunch of bailures in a Mossie parade and then fly en masse to a base, bail out, cap, and then wash, rinse and repeat. So maybe they're examining ways to return the Galaxy to its original intent.

A flight suit shouldn't have a backpack. Have you honestly ever seen anyone sitting in the driver's seat wearing a backpack, who wasn't some emo kid wearing an empty backpack as an accessory? No, probably not. So, why the fuck would you be riding around or flying around wearing one? Nah. Pilots can wear a flight suit with a pistol slot and a few pockets. Like a real goddamn military aviator.

I totally agree mid to light armor and mid to light weapons only for pilots of assault vehicles and that goes for ground and air. Maybe a combat sub machine gun at most like a mp5-k-pdw or a new mp7 type gun. But not heavy assault with a full size backpack as big as the shock troop on the ground. I have always been disgusted by the mosi dropper with jack hammer or mini gun it is such an exploit and one the devs for sure did not intend to happen.

Firefly · 2011-02-16, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Livefire

I have always been disgusted by the mosi dropper with jack hammer or mini gun it is such an exploit and one the devs for sure did not intend to happen.

Pretty sure whilst it may not have been the original intent, it's not an exploit. Because a lot of people did it, a lot of the time, and practically nobody was ever banned for it. I say practically nobody because I'm not positive, but I'd bet good money that nobody ever got banned for it.

Ever meet CSR DanB? That guy was a real, royal cunt. I'm absolutely certain if he could ban someone for exploiting, he would. And since I don't know anyone who was a bailure who was banned for that, I'm gonna have to say you don't know what you're talking about, --> again.

Grimster · 2011-02-16, 09:36 AM

Well can't really say that bailing with mossie and HA weaponry ever bothered me. I am assuming that the people doing it are not interested in teamwork and why shouldn't they have a way to enjoy themselves?