Interesting screen from Chinaside2

[Kran De Loy]

Originally Posted by Robotix

Strange that they wouldn't list speed, since that it supposedly the TR's main advantage.

Yeah, kinda of like how in the April PC Gamer mag they listed both Recoil and Recoil (sustained), but they forgot to include damage degradation over distance.

[TOCS]

What the..? Is the game published in Asia as well? Like all those other F2P shooters?

[sylphaen]

Originally Posted by TOCS

What the..? Is the game published in Asia as well? Like all those other F2P shooters?

Yeah... Planetside was big in China as well.

[Tachyr]

Hmm, the Vanguard looks way to maneuverable from that chart considering the amount of armor as well.
If you are built like a battleship you shouldn't be able to turn almost as good as a Prowler.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by TOCS

What the..? Is the game published in Asia as well? Like all those other F2P shooters?

Ah pranetside 2 prease.

[Knocky]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Ah pranetside 2 prease.

I am NOT taking your bait......but oh, how I want too.

[Tamas]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Ah pranetside 2 prease.

Impossibru


On topic - well Vanguard having best armor and gun will suit me as a heavy tank, while Lightning will fill the fast/nimble light tank. Having said that I would love to try the other tanks as well - pity you can't steal them

Well Mag for sure, as I will have a VS alt.

[Destroyeron]

Shouldn't TR and NC armor be the same if their maneuverability is? NC just seems OP with that chart.

[Zulthus]

Looks sweet.

[Malorn]

Originally Posted by Destroyeron

Shouldn't TR and NC armor be the same if their maneuverability is? NC just seems OP with that chart.

Maneuverability != speed

Prowler is the fastest tank, and I suspect the Vanguard is the slowest, that's another important difference.

There's more than just 4 differences between the tanks.

Here's the advantages as I know it.

1) Speed
Prowler > Mag > Van
We know for sure prowler is the fastest

2) Acceleration
Prowler > Mag > Van
Total guess, but assume it follows the same trend as speed

3) Maneuverability
Mag > Prowler = Van
This reveal confirms this one.

4) Accuracy
Mag > Prowler = Van
We know mag is best, assuming others are equal (in PC mag they are but in slightly different ways)

5) Damage retention over distance
Van = Prowler > Mag
This is the accuracy balance - mag hits more but has reduced damage at range to compensate for prowlers and vans being less accurate.

6) Damage per Shot
Van > Mag > Prowler
Known before this and confirmed again.

7) Rate of Fire
Prowler > Mag > Van
Known before this and confirmed again.

8) Armor
Van > Prowler > Mag
Knew the Van was the strongest but didn't know the order of the other two. Mag strafing keeps strong front armor facing target so Prowler and Mag are probably effectively the same with speed & maneuverability of the two compensating for the difference in armor vs the mag.

Kevmo would have the definitive answer here, but there's definitely more than the 4 listed. I think I'm reasonably close with the above assessment.

[kaffis]

Originally Posted by Malorn

Here's the advantages as I know it.

Speculations on torque? I'm thinking that the Vanguard is probably the one able to throw its weight around since it doesn't have the speed, while the Magrider is probably a lightweight and can't push its way through much. (other than swathes of torsos... *shakes fist angrily*)

[Erendil]

Originally Posted by Malorn

Maneuverability != speed

Prowler is the fastest tank, and I suspect the Vanguard is the slowest, that's another important difference.

There's more than just 4 differences between the tanks.

Here's the advantages as I know it.

1) Speed
Prowler > Mag > Van
We know for sure prowler is the fastest

2) Acceleration
Prowler > Mag > Van
Total guess, but assume it follows the same trend as speed

3) Maneuverability
Mag > Prowler = Van
This reveal confirms this one.

4) Accuracy
Mag > Prowler = Van
We know mag is best, assuming others are equal (in PC mag they are but in slightly different ways)

5) Damage retention over distance
Van = Prowler > Mag
This is the accuracy balance - mag hits more but has reduced damage at range to compensate for prowlers and vans being less accurate.

6) Damage per Shot
Van > Mag > Prowler
Known before this and confirmed again.

7) Rate of Fire
Prowler > Mag > Van
Known before this and confirmed again.

8) Armor
Van > Prowler > Mag
Knew the Van was the strongest but didn't know the order of the other two. Mag strafing keeps strong front armor facing target so Prowler and Mag are probably effectively the same with speed & maneuverability of the two compensating for the difference in armor vs the mag.

Kevmo would have the definitive answer here, but there's definitely more than the 4 listed. I think I'm reasonably close with the above assessment.

Pretty much what I was thinking too. Although I think I'd give the Mag the best acceleration to fit in with its top ranked maneuverability. IMO the Prowler's gear ratio would make it a little slower to get up to speed but once it gets there it can really move.

Gotta say tho that if those graphs are right I'm a little irritated about the Mag's armour. We were told earlier this year that the Prowler was the fastets tank but that the Mag had more armour to make up for it. Now that doesn't appear to be the case.

IMO the fastest tank should have the weakest armour. Unless the Mag significantly outdamages the Prowler up close, all the Prowler would need to do is run straight for any Mag it sees, since the Mag can't outrun it and can't take as much punishment.

[Kran De Loy]

Originally Posted by Shogun

you realized that the flying magrider was a bug? it was confirmed by the devs already. and i guess it was no coincidence, that the display-cable disconnected a few seconds after this silly ufo bug showed up on the demo

I actually liked the idea that the hover distance could change between a meter or two so there would be some low rock outcroppings that we could float over that would just piss off a Prowler and Vanguard.

Originally Posted by Erendil

Pretty much what I was thinking too. Although I think I'd give the Mag the best acceleration to fit in with its top ranked maneuverability. IMO the Prowler's gear ratio would make it a little slower to get up to speed but once it gets there it can really move.

Gotta say tho that if those graphs are right I'm a little irritated about the Mag's armour. We were told earlier this year that the Prowler was the fastets tank but that the Mag had more armour to make up for it. Now that doesn't appear to be the case.

IMO the fastest tank should have the weakest armour. Unless the Mag significantly outdamages the Prowler up close, all the Prowler would need to do is run straight for any Mag it sees, since the Mag can't outrun it and can't take as much punishment.

You gotta think tho that the Mag has the advantage of ALWAYS having it's frontal armor facing the enemy even when retreating, imo.

[kaffis]

Originally Posted by Erendil

IMO the fastest tank should have the weakest armour. Unless the Mag significantly outdamages the Prowler up close, all the Prowler would need to do is run straight for any Mag it sees, since the Mag can't outrun it and can't take as much punishment.

But without knowing how the Prowler and Magrider's armor distribution compares, I don't think it's worth getting alarmed, yet.

It seems likely that the Magrider's low armor rating in this chart refers to overall armor, and that in a tank-to-tank duel, the Magrider will effectively out-armor the Prowler since it will be capable of maneuvering to strike the Prowler's flanks while using its strafing abilities that complement its forward-mounted turret to ensure that its flanks are not being struck by the Prowler.

Whereas the chart above is indicating that the Magrider's flanks are likely weaker, causing it to be more vulnerable to airborne and incidental fire.

[Kran De Loy]

Agreed, but to me running it through my mind the Prowler's added speed would at least be able to keep it's sides to any opponent. It's speed would enable it to reposition or keep a steady distance versus almost any target quickly enough to prevent it from being flanked.

Vannie would have much more of a problem with this because they wouldn't be able to keep the distance between itself and the other MBT's so it's capable of taking much more punishment then either of the others. Logically it could turn in place to keep it's front forward, but versus multiple targets I believe it would be easily flanked.

Mag rider can speed around the battle field and keep the distance it desires between itself and it's target almost as well as the Prowler, not because it has almost as much speed as a Prowler but more to do with the one the added benefit that it is the only one capable of lateral movement.

Heh, I just had an image of a 4 Vannie squad maneuvering so that they'd form a perfect square protecting eachother's rear armor completely like a stack of Legos.