Confirmed, Hackers banned for 3-10 days. [Statement from Smed] - Page 2

Baneblade · 2013-02-25, 12:21 AM

I want to see Asterisks next to anything related to a hacking player's stats. Just so people know that player didn't earn those numbers.

Phreec · 2013-02-25, 12:29 AM

Unacceptable. If the player is caught red handed he should be perm-banned.

Babyfark McGeez · 2013-02-25, 03:48 AM

If this is true our SOE friends will so get the piss for this by their playerbase, and i must say totally rightful so.

Just makes you wonder once more how these guys are actually running their business, and what their priorities are.

Ironside · 2013-02-25, 04:26 AM

i remember the run up to beta smedley saying they had robust measures for cheaters,
to be honest i don't think they have jack shit and just use other players to police the game and highlight cheats..
My opinion of smedley has been low from day one

Wahooo · 2013-02-25, 04:48 AM

I don't think that is every case, and there are straight away bans. However SOE has been pretty bad as far as consistency in their bans for a long time.
I've known people that were banned from PS1 for trying out the hacks for vigilante justice and were banned for life, no appeal possible no coming back.
Then I've seen accounts of people posting on hacker forums about 1-2 week bans over and over again.

Credit Card: it is simply not something SOE does. It is a shame, if a CC and valid email was required to create an account it would go SOOOOO much further in being able to perma ban people and keep them from coming back with alt accounts.

Players in this large a game just can't be GM's. There are too many who fly off the handle and hackusate. In order to ban you need tools to watch players that I'm not comfortable giving to players. GMs just need more control and ability to temporary ban while the Devs look into the case to permaban.

Yes, there are multiple types of hackers, but there is also cross-over. The troll types or those who like to push and just see how far and what they can do? Well in PS1 there were a few who TRULY hacked the game and as far as I know never really did anything to upset the game or peoples play time. There were many other script writers who came back day after day after day completely breaking the game, and distributing their cheats to the bads wanting an edge. There is a cross-over and as far as i'm concerned they can both be instantly perma-banned at first offense.

I'm not a fan of name and shame. there are just to many or get their rocks off on that.. being able to say see that was me look at how much they hate ME! I just want bans.

I still don't see many as far as I know. But I do see a lot of hackusations.

Thunderhawk · 2013-02-25, 04:50 AM

meh, ranting about it now isn't going to make much difference, I just play my game and if I run into a hacker move onto somewhere else to fight. (after reporting them)

I don't get too wound up about it, as it serves no goal.

Also, occasionally, both empires fighting tend to actually cooperate and either kill or TK the cheater so thats actually pretty cool

Babyfark McGeez · 2013-02-25, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Wahooo

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Credit Card: it is simply not something SOE does. It is a shame, if a CC and valid email was required to create an account it would go SOOOOO much further in being able to perma ban people and keep them from coming back with alt accounts.

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If this game (or any other SOE game for that matter) would require credit card info i wouldn't be playing it (and not only because i don't have a credit card). I am fairly certain that would apply to MANY eu players. That's a bad idea.

Sturmhardt · 2013-02-25, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Babyfark McGeez

If this game (or any other SOE game for that matter) would require credit card info i wouldn't be playing it (and not only because i don't have a credit card). I am fairly certain that would apply to MANY eu players. That's a bad idea.

Agreed, but it would be no problem if they tied an account to a mobile phone. Everyone has a mobile phone. Of course you have other people's phones around that you could borrow if your account gets banned, but it's work and after 2 or 3 accounts you are out of phone numbers. I don't get why they don't do this. The Russian SOE counterparts do it like that.

.sent via phone.

Babyfark McGeez · 2013-02-25, 08:11 AM

Now that's a good idea. Phone numbers are harder to come by than throwaway email addresses.

Also even though it's not irony, but i like that you sent that idea via phone. Ha.

psijaka · 2013-02-25, 08:22 AM

3-10 day ban and they don't lose anything? PATHETIC.

Proven hackers should be banned for life; simple. There should be rock solid evidence and an appeals process though; mistakes can happen.

Blynd · 2013-02-25, 09:14 AM

The wall of shame is a great idea for those who report cheeters and may encourage more people to report cheeters

Baneblade · 2013-02-25, 09:22 AM

Id like to point out that the OP has not supplied evidence that SOE rewards hacking with anything other than a permaban.

luvthesnapper · 2013-02-25, 09:35 AM

I'm on mattherson as well, and have recently started recording around cap points, simply standing and waiting for maxes to fly in through walls, pop up through the floor, etc. Got some great footage last weekend. The funny thing is, not only are they bad PS2 players, they are bad at using the hacking software as well. Just failure all around.

DirtyBird · 2013-02-25, 09:51 AM

If this is happening now then they have changed it recently imo.
I've not seen any of the cheats I've reported back in January.
Mind you I've also not seen about 75% of my outfit or other allied outfits since then either.

IF the policy has changed then I cant see the point in reporting them and probably wont bother any more.

I'd be disappointed if Smeds has softened his stance on cheats.
He was very adamant that he would hunt them all down and challenged the cheats to test him.

He doesn't seem to say as much these days but maybe he'll come out and clarify it for us.

ShadoViper · 2013-02-25, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Thunderhawk

meh, ranting about it now isn't going to make much difference, I just play my game and if I run into a hacker move onto somewhere else to fight. (after reporting them)

I don't get too wound up about it, as it serves no goal.

Also, occasionally, both empires fighting tend to actually cooperate and either kill or TK the cheater so thats actually pretty cool

That apathy and submission sure sounds fun to me. I should definatly have to go out of my way in-game to play. I sure feel like my time as a customer is valued in that scenario.