Vanu shotguns with slugs are just flat out better than TR and NC. - Page 2

KesTro · 2013-11-30, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ghoest9

Wrong.

Im guessing you dont spend time using slugs to snipe with light assaults.

When you have to make 3(or maybe 2 head shots and a body shot) head shots to kill someone at 100 meters with a slow firing gun it matters.

Wrong. I do, and I have no problem accounting for bullet drop. The lack of bullet drop on Vanu is just a gimmick and players who have been accounting for bullet drop since day one tend to have a harder time playing them. That's what I've observed from outfit mates and friends anyhow.

Not but a month ago I can recall sniping people with the Sweeper 4x scope and slugs from the bottoms of the canyons at the SE WG on Indar, worked just fine there. It's not something I would use regularly just as I'm sure VS would not use their shotgun with slugs regularly either.

Ghoest9 · 2013-11-30, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by KesTro

Wrong. I do, and I have no problem accounting for bullet drop. The lack of bullet drop on Vanu is just a gimmick and players who have been accounting for bullet drop since day one tend to have a harder time playing them. That's what I've observed from outfit mates and friends anyhow.

Not but a month ago I can recall sniping people with the Sweeper 4x scope and slugs from the bottoms of the canyons at the SE WG on Indar, worked just fine there. It's not something I would use regularly just as I'm sure VS would not use their shotgun with slugs regularly either.

So a month ago in one instance you tried out some slugs and you decided their fine but not something you would use.

Anyway - they drop like rocks at range. Ive almost only ever played NC and they are a miserable weapon now most suited for goof off plinking not for going out and getting kills.

GreyFrog · 2013-12-01, 06:40 PM

Why is this a problem? Can we not have unique empire mechanics now?

Well shit, put me down for a Jackhammer on my TR please.

isilyan · 2013-12-01, 07:02 PM

Gotta agree with OP

VS slugs are op, you can just farm for days at mid/long range with them

I just dont get why SOE dont nerf the bullet speed of those things

Imho it is one of the most pressing balance issues in the game atm

Ghoest9 · 2013-12-01, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by GreyFrog

Why is this a problem? Can we not have unique empire mechanics now?

Well shit, put me down for a Jackhammer on my TR please.

Think harder troll.

All the regular shotguns are identical between the 3 factions. Then when you put slugs in them the TR and NC are still identical. But the Vanu is different.
The TR and NC guns have extreme bullet drop but the Vanu has none. In exchange the the Vanu has slightly lower velocity - but that doesnt matter because they all travel so slow that at range you can only shoot stationary targets.

Ghoest9 · 2013-12-01, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by isilyan

Gotta agree with OP

VS slugs are op, you can just farm for days at mid/long range with them

I just dont get why SOE dont nerf the bullet speed of those things

Imho it is one of the most pressing balance issues in the game atm

At range all the slugs are so slow that it simply doesnt matter - you will only be killing stationary targets with any of them.

BRUTALPLAYS · 2013-12-01, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by GreyFrog

put me down for a Jackhammer on my TR please.

I would also like a jackhammer please. Actually make that two, one for each arm of my ZOE

GreyFrog · 2013-12-01, 09:06 PM

So by your own admission you only snipe stationary targets with this mechanic. Easily done with weapons with bullet drop, you get used to compensating quick enough. Also easy to do with almost any weapon.

Gosh I'm glad we cleared up that crisis before someone popped a blood vessel.

Ghoest9 · 2013-12-01, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by GreyFrog

So by your own admission you only snipe stationary targets with this mechanic. Easily done with weapons with bullet drop, you get used to compensating quick enough. Also easy to do with almost any weapon.

Gosh I'm glad we cleared up that crisis before someone popped a blood vessel.

No.

Apparently you have not been trying to snipe with slug guns in their current form.

Why dont you try playing the game instead of demonstrating your ignorance.

AThreatToYou · 2013-12-02, 02:28 AM

ITT:

Except less cool.

KesTro · 2013-12-02, 02:43 AM

Eh, the guy has a point even if I don't agree with him. I think there's LOADS more of pressing issues to be addressed before something like this though, namely vehicle/max balance - But hey if he wants to let an issue be known, whatever that's cool.

War Barney · 2013-12-02, 10:43 AM

Its not really news that the VS have the best of everything, there needs to be a faction for new players thats easy to use or new players would just quit. It would be nice if it forced played into one of the balanced factions after they've been playing a while instead of letting people stay in the tutorial faction.

GreyFrog · 2013-12-02, 02:50 PM

ITT: One person has an issue, no one else does, therefore game breaking balance issue.

@Ghoest - I have two characters over level 80, I play this game a lot. It really isnt a concern personally and hardly game breaking. So now you've accused a bunch of us of being ignorant pony up some game play stats.

maradine · 2013-12-02, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by GreyFrog

Why is this a problem? Can we not have unique empire mechanics now?

Well shit, put me down for a Jackhammer on my TR please.

A-fucking-men.

To the general sentiment. You only get a Jackhammer if we do too, pal.

edit: irony!

Ghoest9 · 2013-12-02, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by GreyFrog

ITT: One person has an issue, no one else does, therefore game breaking balance issue.

@Ghoest - I have two characters over level 80, I play this game a lot. It really isnt a concern personally and hardly game breaking. So now you've accused a bunch of us of being ignorant pony up some game play stats.

Ehhh - Im Ghoest. Not exactly a secret.
Havent played a lot lately but I have used shotgun slugs plenty.