selling vec weapons is p2w!

[Methonius]

I can assure that this is just ppl whining because I heard tons of ppl tell me that the carbine was complete crap and I dominate consistently with it and thats the starter wep. My KD is always 2-3.0 and higher. I play engineer mainly and run around with the carbine, occassionally I go with heavy assault if I get bored of engi.

[Skepsiis]

Originally Posted by PurpleOtter

Truth be told some one could unlock 1000's in SC and still not be nearly as effective as some one who has been playing in the Beta for weeks/months.

Good point. You cant buy skill or situational awareness with SC. If anything, that makes this game play to win.....

[arclegger]

If our game was pay to win we would have a button that showed up on the death screen that let you kill the person who just killed you for 50 SC. Then that person would get the same popup to kill you for 75 SC and it would keep growing and growing until the highest bidder won.

[TehCandyMan]

Funny thing is they were saying this months ago prior to beta, but on one of there alpha vids of them showing the store you could clearly see all there weapons had a station cash amount next to them.

I'm all for them making money, because I want to see this game do well.. But they should have just admitted this from the jump. Not spew the "you will only be able to pay for side grades" crap.

[Timealude]

Originally Posted by TehCandyMan

Funny thing is they were saying this months ago prior to beta, but on one of there alpha vids of them showing the store you could clearly see all there weapons had a station cash amount next to them.

I'm all for them making money, because I want to see this game do well.. But they should have just admitted this from the jump. Not spew the "you will only be able to pay for side grades" crap.

I think people also dont get what side grades mean.....lets take a look at the rocket pods for instance.....If you use rocket pods you give up having a huge bank of after burner fuel...which means you give up the ability to out run enemy fighters easy or out run G2A or A2A missile....side grading is giving up something to gain something else.

[LoliLoveFart]

Originally Posted by arclegger

If our game was pay to win we would have a button that showed up on the death screen that let you kill the person who just killed you for 50 SC. Then that person would get the same popup to kill you for 75 SC and it would keep growing and growing until the highest bidder won.

I don't think the game is P2W at all.
If you are infantry and you got killed by rocketpods, congratulations you got killed by an anti infantry weapon. As for the guns, I find they all have good and bad situations, I personally haven't unlocked every gun in the game so I can't throw out a blanket statemant but I will anyway, from the guns I have unlocked I do not feel any of them have given me an advantage over other players.

[Mavvvy]

It would be pay to win if this was a more a individual centric game, however luckily there us nothing that teamplay can't kill in this .

Like someone else said the weapons should be tied to battlerank.

[elementHTTP]

Only P2W item in game are/is ROCKET PODS

[Mavvvy]

Originally Posted by LoliLoveFart

I don't think the game is P2W at all.
If you are infantry and you got killed by rocketpods, congratulations you got killed by an anti infantry weapon. As for the guns, I find they all have good and bad situations, I personally haven't unlocked every gun in the game so I can't throw out a blanket statemant but I will anyway, from the guns I have unlocked I do not feel any of them have given me an advantage over other players.

Hehe you just reminded me of what one of my squad mates said to me once "shotguns are too op in close quarters combat"

I had to write him up a note that our friendship was under review after that

[psijaka]

Not this subject again

[Realmofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Bags

It's not pay to win, but you cannot deny that people who have cash to blow and are unlocking overpowered things like A2G missiles on day 1 aren't at a HUMONGOUS advantage over someone who doesn't spend a dime for a week or two.

And this is from someone with 16k station cash to blow.

its because of these people the game will survive. If there are no attractive things to buy then no one will cash in. They need money.

[SkarBlade]

Originally Posted by Mox

There is no excuse...

Selling vec weapons and also some of the major inf weapons (mcg, shotgun, launchers)is p2w.

I buy it anyway but soe has promised something else. They talked about only sellling sidegrades and cosmetics....

Thougts?

P2W doesn't make you a better player.

[Gortha]

You can obtain every Vehicular Weapon of Inf Weapon by a few days of play, by Cert-Points.

So it is no P2W.

[CrankyTRex]

This vehicle weapons problem is still my biggest gripe with the game. It's the reason I didn't bother buying BF3 after its Beta. If PS2 didn't have so many other things going for it, I wouldn't play it either for this reason.

Not having the option to choose things like flares and missiles until they are unlocked is incredibly frustrating, especially when cert points are shared between the various classes and vehicles. It's as frustrating to me as if every character class started only with a pistol and had to unlock their main weapon.

There should be a base standard option for each role to start with and then the certs can specialize into the area you like. Your standard dumb bomb can then become something more versatile like the rocket pods, for example.

[artifice]

Originally Posted by arclegger

If our game was pay to win we would have a button that showed up on the death screen that let you kill the person who just killed you for 50 SC. Then that person would get the same popup to kill you for 75 SC and it would keep growing and growing until the highest bidder won.

That would be hilarious.