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Old 2006-03-30, 07:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #16
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I don't know.. I dont really find the end game in WoW all that casual. 40 people in an instance?
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Old 2006-03-30, 10:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Originally Posted by Lartnev
Two words: Expansion Pack.

I think when you make a game to cater for the casual gamer, you have to make everything for the casual gamer, hence even the endgame is geared to the casual gamer.
Yeah I'm with hamma here, I don't think anything about WoW is casual friendly after you hit 60.

PvP is why I started playing WoW. The thing that gets me is the characters are fun as hell to play even in PvP, way more so than in DAOC which was the last MMORPG i played. The system however, is garbage and ruins the whole experience. I started playing in the beginning and I don't think anybody had any real idea what WoW's endgame would be like at that time. Once I realized PvE loot grinding was the game and some half assed gimmicky PvP zones and the worst PvP advancement system ever was all it could offer from the PvP side I dropped my account like a sack of bricks.

I'm just bitter that the game is fun on so many counts, but the endgame just isn't there. I'm kind hoping that down the road they'll fix some aspects of PvP and make it way more entertaining. I'm fairly sure though that is just not the vision of blizzard. A PvE endgame seems to appeal to more people (EQ's success?) than a PvP one.
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Old 2006-03-30, 10:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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I quit for similar reasons, I loved to PVP here and there but I was always getting bitchslapped by no-life's who ran instances 24/7. I relised the only way I could compete was either to PVP 24/7 and get equip or farm instances 24/7. I decided for neither and quit.
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Old 2006-03-30, 10:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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That'll learn me for making a sweeping generalisation
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Old 2006-03-30, 10:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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I never even got to 60 on any of my characters, I'd keep rerolling them because I knew it would only piss me off to spend countless hours farming for a purple that would be obsolete as soon as I got it.
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Old 2006-03-30, 11:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Indeed - I had 2 60's and regret my time in the game. Sure people can say "Oh but there is plenty to do" but personally if I am going to play I want to be twinked. I rolled a gimpadin at first and got frustrated so I figured hey - I will roll a rogue. But even on a rogue I was getting owned.

I don't want to waste my life awway getting twinked - and if you have bad equipment in the game you are dead. It's not based on any form of skill.
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Old 2006-03-30, 01:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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It's just based on poeple with enough money to buy good equipment.
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Old 2006-03-30, 02:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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no it's not even that. Shit, I'm a lazy bastard, i came into the game for pvp and that's all I cared about. My priest and rogue were twinked as well as real money would allow, but you can't buy good equipment, you have to farm them from instances. That's what killed me. God I hate PvE.
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Old 2006-03-30, 03:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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we seriously need a WoW discussion board.
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Old 2006-03-30, 06:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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negative on that
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Old 2006-03-30, 06:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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How about a general video game discussion board?
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Old 2006-03-30, 06:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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What about "The Lounge"
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Old 2006-03-30, 09:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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But the lounge is for strippers...
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Old 2006-03-30, 10:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by Hamma
What about "The Lounge"
That would be the comedy section,not so much video games.
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Old 2006-03-31, 05:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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I played WoW with a Night Elf Hunter to lvl 30 then I quit. Reason is, it just seems like a waste of time to me. In EVE I can train my skills even when I'm not online, so I can actually have a job and a life and continue to compete with those who spend all day playing.

That and I couldn't stand how WoW has virtually no risk. People just charge around like idiots, especially in PVP, because theres no real downside to losing. Damn, when you lose a ship in EVE, it's GONE. You might be able to fly back and scoop up some of your old equipment and modules that weren't turned to dust when your ship exploded, but if you lost it in PVP it's very likely your killer made off with the stuff. Because of that, people actually play smart, and most of the game is about out-thinking your opponent and exploiting their weaknesses. It's a game for the very patient brain-gamer. When I want to play a casual game, I play an FPS. When I want to play a game where I feel a sense of pride and accomplishment, I play EVE.

So, basically what I'm saying is... fuck WoW.
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