Nazi Dog - Page 2

Ait'al · 2003-10-15, 03:47 PM

And pilgrim im 20 get your head out of your ass and think about what your reading. This is a forum, you cant express all the things youd express if you were in person!
And i hate being angry at people. GGRRRR!
So if you care i dont want to have to argue about this.

EarlyDawn · 2003-10-15, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by {BOHICA}Navaron

Not Ironic. Prudent.

How do you figure? As far as I'm concerned if people can't express their views, what was the sense in fighting wars such as WWII?

Spider · 2003-10-15, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by LNS0388

How do you figure? As far as I'm concerned if people can't express their views, what was the sense in fighting wars such as WWII?

Well you know there is alot of nazi wannabe out there, using this method prevents somehow the rise of another german psycopath... or austrian for that matter. Seeing as how it's the same in austria and all...

Zodiac · 2003-10-15, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by LNS0388

How do you figure? As far as I'm concerned if people can't express their views, what was the sense in fighting wars such as WWII?

smartass

Pilgrim · 2003-10-15, 04:21 PM

Ait'al

Nothing but love for you man

I agree that if this guy had done this as a satirical slam on Hitler that would be fine, and I'd line up with you to pin the rewards on his chest. But he didn't. He did it as an honor.

So our disagreement is purely one of symantics and intent. Upon reading this article I saw a NAzi muffon head and you saw a guy making fun of Hitler.

So I understand what you were saying, just disagree with you given the context of the article in question.

As to anti-nazi laws in Germany... Sometimes I think these go to far ie. no games with nazis in them and such, but for the most part you gotta understand where the country is comming from!

PAX

GonePostal · 2003-10-15, 04:23 PM

hahaha "i hate being angry at people GRRRRR!!"

nothing expresses anger more than "GRRRR!!":P

Ait'al · 2003-10-15, 04:25 PM

Ait'al · 2003-10-15, 04:29 PM

If any staff reads this the above or below smiley, depending how you read this, has an error in the standard smiley list in the reply screen it comes out :d instead of (

) : capital d

EarlyDawn · 2003-10-15, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Zodiac

smartass

Thanks for your input. At least Nav can articulate some logic behind his reactions.

Navaron · 2003-10-15, 05:03 PM

The point of WW2 was not to protect freedom of speech, just look at who fought the war (ie Stalin). WW2 was fought to prevent Nazi conquest of Euroupe, and the current German legislation is formed to prevent recurrent themes of anti-semitism, and nazi propaganda from re-arising and repeating their past. It's prudent.

I ask you-

What's the point of remembering history, if we refuse to use and apply that knowledge to prevent making the same mistakes?

GonePostal · 2003-10-15, 05:09 PM

well put nav

Robot · 2003-10-15, 05:15 PM

that sounds kinda like something that might appear on "hogan's heroes: 50 years later"

GonePostal · 2003-10-15, 05:16 PM

naw more like SPR or band of brothers, which btw is a fucking awsome miniseries

Robot · 2003-10-15, 05:20 PM

"Herr General, look, I have taught mein dog to give the Nazi salute! Soon, we can begin to build up the army again, and we vill rule ze vworld!"
::Hogan pops up in the floorboards:: "Who let the dogs out?" ::Yoink!::
"THEY HAVE ESCAAAAAAPED!"

EarlyDawn · 2003-10-15, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by {BOHICA}Navaron

The point of WW2 was not to protect freedom of speech, just look at who fought the war (ie Stalin). WW2 was fought to prevent Nazi conquest of Euroupe, and the current German legislation is formed to prevent recurrent themes of anti-semitism, and nazi propaganda from re-arising and repeating their past. It's prudent.

I ask you-

What's the point of remembering history, if we refuse to use and apply that knowledge to prevent making the same mistakes?

Two names for the same thing. If the Nazis had conquored Europe, it would have only been a matter of time until the rest of the world fell. It was a miracle the Allies even won that war.

The point I was trying to get across is that if the Nazis had won Europe, it would be a dictatorship of the scale the world has never seen. There would be no free sppech. But it's ironic in the sense that because of history, one particular group is prevented from voicing their opinions. I was planning on thinking up an anology in the US, but I'm not patient enough to tonight.

I agree that you should not be able to persecute people because of their religion, and that any group that tries to should be stopped at all costs, but where do you draw the line between preventing a future disaster, and obscuring the rights to an opinion?

Just some food for thought. Nice discussion.