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Old 2012-03-06, 09:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: Dominations and Revenges are in, thoughts?


PS1 actually has a full kill stats list under the character info UI window. Show Stats Button.
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Old 2012-03-06, 09:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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This isn't an arena shooter so I don't think "Domination" or "revenge" is even going to be what we think it is if it makes it.
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Old 2012-03-06, 10:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Originally Posted by VioletZero View Post
Hmmm, I'm a little worried.

Planetside isn't about kills like other shooters. And this may shift the player's focus away from getting the job done to just killing as many players as possible.
Planetside is more about kills than other shooters. There's hundreds more people to shoot.

Killing everything that moves is getting the job done.
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Old 2012-03-06, 10:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by IceyCold View Post
Planetside 1 tracked your K/D and displayed it. Never seemed to pull away from those who played it like a team game.

I don't care either way personally. I prefer turn continents blue than have a MMMMONSTER KILL.
Huh. I should have figured you batshit crazy NC'ers would die your blood blue.

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Old 2012-03-06, 10:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by Squeegeez View Post


Personally I like them, but don't care one way or the other if they make it in.

My mind relates this system to TF2's.
So long as, like TF2, they don't DO anything other than being an interesting stat, then I really don't care.
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Old 2012-03-06, 10:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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I'd say if you where the cause of an enemy's 3? consecutive deaths you get a Domination, Revenge is killing the guy who just killed you.
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Old 2012-03-07, 12:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Originally Posted by VioletZero View Post
Hmmm, I'm a little worried.

Planetside isn't about kills like other shooters. And this may shift the player's focus away from getting the job done to just killing as many players as possible.
1) Not all FPS players are Stat-whores.

2) Even without it, I think many players still want to kill as many enemies as possible =)
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Old 2012-03-07, 12:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by Eighm View Post
I don't particularly like them in because PS for me should be more about team effort than individual K : D ratios.
While I don't mind individual stats, I hope they include other stats that better reflect the team-based aspects to this game. Things like repairs, resupplies, heals, revives, assists, etc. Maybe even have some squad stats as well as Outfit and faction stats.
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Old 2012-03-07, 01:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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As long as there is no announcer screaming domination and it doesn't flash up on my screen I could care less. To everyone saying it will encourage stat-whoring, is there a game people don't stat-whore? It will exist whether or not domination and revenge exists.
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Old 2012-03-07, 02:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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As long as there is no announcer screaming domination and it doesn't flash up on my screen I could care less. To everyone saying it will encourage stat-whoring, is there a game people don't stat-whore? It will exist whether or not domination and revenge exists.
Heh. Pretty much sums up my thinking.
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Dominations and revenges encourage personal killwhoring and detract from team play.

I see K:D and other teamplay discouraging stats to be bad for the game.

There are plenty of better alternatives, namely "Score", since "Score" is something that can be generated from doing many types of activities, like having people spawn at your well-placed galaxy, or giving ammo, or reviving/healing, or capturing objectives, or defending objectives, as well as killing.

Score and Score/Min should be the universal "Stat" that people strive to maximize, not Kills or K:D. This isn't deathmatch.

I know many common FPS games have K:D stats - but much like the running of the bulls, just because its always been done doesn't mean its not incredibly stupid.

There's an awesome demotivator poster illustrating this point.

http://www.despair.com/tradition.html

K:D is bad for teamplay. Axe it. You won't lose any players over it, and the game as a whole will be better.
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Old 2012-03-07, 03:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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i dont really like individual stats at all

i never looked at mine in PS1 and i never knew you even could until recently
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Old 2012-03-07, 04:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Dominations and revenges encourage personal killwhoring and detract from team play.

I see K and other teamplay discouraging stats to be bad for the game.

There are plenty of better alternatives, namely "Score", since "Score" is something that can be generated from doing many types of activities, like having people spawn at your well-placed galaxy, or giving ammo, or reviving/healing, or capturing objectives, or defending objectives, as well as killing.

Score and Score/Min should be the universal "Stat" that people strive to maximize, not Kills or K. This isn't deathmatch.

I know many common FPS games have K stats - but much like the running of the bulls, just because its always been done doesn't mean its not incredibly stupid.

There's an awesome demotivator poster illustrating this point.

http://www.despair.com/tradition.html

K is bad for teamplay. Axe it. You won't lose any players over it, and the game as a whole will be better.
Amen !

Good Post !

Lets not forget, that PS1 didn´t have stats (K/D Score) in the beginning. Its the bane of good teamplay imho.
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Old 2012-03-07, 04:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Yeah we are gonna have people bragging about K/D Ratio.


I mean I would love it their was more usefull stats than that...which their probably will.
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Old 2012-03-07, 04:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Originally Posted by Ragotag View Post
While I don't mind individual stats, I hope they include other stats that better reflect the team-based aspects to this game. Things like repairs, resupplies, heals, revives, assists, etc. Maybe even have some squad stats as well as Outfit and faction stats.
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