[Proposed] ESF UI Changes - Page 2

maradine · 2013-02-08, 02:38 PM

I find it curious that you assert no one here has any idea what they're talking about. It makes it very difficult be rational with you. But, no true scotsman, eh?

Pella · 2013-02-08, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mox

I think using 3th person view would be op if we have the suggested HUD. No one could use first person anymore because it would be a huge disadvantage. I like 1th p. because it is way more immersive. Therefore, i dont like the idea.

Yes that's a good point. It is Kinda OP but its part of the flying Mechanic. And everyone who is flying will be able to see it so no one really is at a disadvantage.

MrBloodworth · 2013-02-08, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by maradine

I find it curious that you assert no one here has any idea what they're talking about. It makes it very difficult be rational with you. But, no true scotsman, eh?

I'm restraining myself!

MrBloodworth · 2013-02-08, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Pella

Yes that's a good point.

Its the same point everyone has made!

Pella · 2013-02-08, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by maradine

I find it curious that you assert no one here has any idea what they're talking about. It makes it very difficult be rational with you. But, no true scotsman, eh?

Not at all. And i surely don't intend to come across that way. But i find it odd when 1 person. That clearly has no idea what he's talking about try's and demolish an idea. Its the bane of planetside.

MrBloodworth · 2013-02-08, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Pella

Not at all. And i surely don't intend to come across that way. But i find it odd when 1 person. That clearly has no idea what he's talking about try's and demolish an idea. Its the bane of planetside.

wut.

My first post was reasonable. Mr."Derp".

Pella · 2013-02-08, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Its the same point everyone has made!

No it is not. And everyone? You and 1 other person who's feed back is completely different to yours.

Gratz you just got the Lieutenant Colonel title.... Forum warrior much?

MrBloodworth · 2013-02-08, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Pella

No it is not. And everyone? You and 1 other person who's feed back is completely different to yours.

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Um. The draw back to third person is that you have zero information from your cockpit displays.

It should stay that way.

BAM. Then me telling you I fly and engage in first person sent you into a rage.

Anyway...

Pella · 2013-02-08, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

BAM. Then me telling you I fly and engage in first person sent you into a rage.

Not in a rage at all.

Quietly laughing to myself.

Rbstr · 2013-02-08, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Um. The draw back to third person is that you have zero information from your cockpit displays.

It should stay that way.

Yep.
Cockpit functionality being a bit wonky isn't a reason to throw away the initial logic. It's a reason to fix cockpit functionality.

Frankly I don't think third person belongs at all. There's free look. It seems like it was grudgingly added because? People needed to see where to land?
My response is: Learn the dimensions of your vehicle.

Pella: You're hardly making an sense while simply insulting the first person with a counter point instead of engaging the argument. Do you really think anyone is going to give you reasoned consideration?

Chewy · 2013-02-08, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Rbstr

Yep.
Cockpit functionality being a bit wonky isn't a reason to throw away the initial logic. It's a reason to fix cockpit functionality.

Frankly I don't think third person belongs at all. There's free look. It seems like it was grudgingly added because? People needed to see where to land?
My response is: Learn the dimensions of your vehicle.

Pella: You're hardly making an sense while simply insulting the first person with a counter point instead of engaging the argument. Do you really think anyone is going to give you reasoned consideration?

I never go out of 1st person view unless Im flying a libby, gal, or need to land an ESF. 90% of the time Im in 1st person where I have exact eyes on where Im going and can see what gaps I can get into and what I can't. With both libby and Gals not needing to be great movers I stay in 3rd person to see more of what's around me. Kinda feels cheap to be able to see an ESF coming from what should be a blind spot to the pilot.

Still wish there where choppers in PS2. Im shit in jets and planes, but give me a chopper and it'll dance in the skies. Made a small name for myself when my clan (Not DVS) needed a chopper pilot in ARMA 2.

NewSith · 2013-02-08, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Pella

Here are 2 things i would like to see when flying ESF's in 3rd person view

ui/hud

1: Is a Lock on Indicator in 3rd Person view while flying
2: An After Burner display.

Im sure allot of Pilots would like to see these added.

UMAD? HUD in third person is sooo 2003... *sarc*

HansGoddius · 2013-02-08, 06:09 PM

I do not believe you should see ANY information while flying in third person. Is there like some sort of camera behind us that tells us information. I am a ESF pilot and frankly I wish they remove the A2AM locking indicator while in third person.

Maniya · 2013-02-08, 11:59 PM

Well, you still can hear lock on warning even you are in 3rd person view point while you flying right? If you are not allowed to access any information while you are in 3rd person view, you should not be able to hear warning sound from cockpit while in 3rd person view. I don't think this UI change will hurt anything much.

If you going to apply this UI, then not just ESP, do it on ground vehicles as well, i guess.

Hamma · 2013-02-09, 01:32 PM

I use both views, but first person more than anything.