Why im getting rid of Heavy Assault (Jackhammer) - Page 2

infinite loop · 2003-12-08, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Biohazzard56

The other day i started playing as a TR on Markov, and seeing all my friends with their Jackhammers vs. me wasnt cool, ill still be playing NC but i do agree that the Jackhammer is pretty fucking cheap at times. Id encourage others to do the same (think of what you could buy with the extra 4 cert points)

No thanks. I already get owned at mid-close range (>10m) by MCGs and even some Lashers. You want me to get owned at cqc too? The JH is not fucking cheap at any time. It sucks at any range but <15m period. But indoors, there's not another weapon I'd rather have.

Biohazzard56 · 2003-12-08, 07:07 PM

I ended up getting Special Assault and Uni-Max, after dropping HA (Love the Decimator)

Eldanesh · 2003-12-08, 09:32 PM

My dilemma: is it more worth it to get SA for the 1-2 decis I may carry in my invo or to get engineering, or skeeter or something.

TeraHertz · 2003-12-08, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Biohazzard56

The other day i started playing as a TR on Markov, and seeing all my friends with their Jackhammers vs. me wasnt cool, ill still be playing NC but i do agree that the Jackhammer is pretty fucking cheap at times. Id encourage others to do the same (think of what you could buy with the extra 4 cert points)

Welcome back from the darkside. I congratulate you on your courage and honour. You don't need to give up HA just yet though. Have you considerer the malestrome? It's pretty easy to fill your locker every so often, you just need to stop off at your nearest equipment module base before you head for battle.

Vick · 2003-12-08, 09:55 PM

In my opinion all HA is lame.

Stop the spam, go MA. Or be like me, pure standard assault ownage baby.

AztecWarrior · 2003-12-08, 09:57 PM

The Jackhammer is a specialized weapon. It is powerful because the other weapons own it at beyond-shotgun range. NC weapons are powerful, and this one is. Try to hit an Elmo at medium range with a spreadfire gun, and you'll be displeased.

However, some of my best performances have been with a Sweeper. Once, the power went out in a base. I owned a Vanu MAX with just the Sweeper by shooting a few times, ducking back behind a door, and re-emerging in a different spot. I did this a few times until he spotted me. I circle-strafed him, blasting away. I got him- I was in Agile Armor.

I also, for some reason, sense that the Sweeper is just a tad more powerful than the Jackhammer, shot for shot, but the volume of Jackhammer shots makes it a better gun.

Biohazzard56 · 2003-12-08, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by TeraHertz

Welcome back from the darkside. I congratulate you on your courage and honour.

Makes me feel like im playing KotOR or something, I got most of my kills from Scatmax and Sniper in the first place. But yea i dropped HA beacuse its cheap and i didnt like it being used against me, i thought it was unfair so i get Uni-Max and SA (dont ask) it deleted Scat Max and gave me 3 extra cert points with out waiting 24 hours

TeraHertz · 2003-12-08, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Vick

In my opinion all HA is lame.

Stop the spam, go MA. Or be like me, pure standard assault ownage baby.

Fear my lancer.

Biohazzard56 · 2003-12-08, 10:03 PM

Really

, but how effective is Lancer compaired to Bolt Driver? It seems like if you wanted to snipe you could get sniping for 3 cert points or is lasher shorter range noob sniper rifle

I Hate Pants · 2003-12-08, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Vick

In my opinion all HA is lame.

Stop the spam, go MA. Or be like me, pure standard assault ownage baby.

This guy knows what hes talking about.

Less Ha users! And more MA users!

CYCLER RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TeraHertz · 2003-12-08, 10:17 PM

OFN? huh? *confused by post* wtf does that mean?
I'll assume when u said lasher you meant lancer.

The lancer a noob sniper rifle? LOL. Hell no. It takes some skill to hit targets, not like that assbandit gimp rifle they call the bolt driver. Hey look, that guy stopped. *dead*

Can the lancer lock on? no.
Can you fire and hide, doing any decent amount of damage? no. [edit] can you shoot, and jump behind a tree
Can you use indirect fire, or guide the shots? no.
Is it extremley accurate? Compared to the other VS weapons, yes. Overall, no.

The lancer is a typical VS weapon, it's versatlie but doesn't excel. You CAN take out infanty if you have the skill. You CAN take out MAXs fairly easily from a distance, but close up you'd better be good to get those 6 shots off before you're deep fried. You CAN take out aircraft, so long as their not moving fast, and dont shoot at you. You CANT kill tanks. Unless the tank is extremley stupid. It takes over 2 full magazines just to kill a crappy turret.

I like the Lancer, becasue enough of my unit use the pulsar to take out infantry at medium range, so I hit the maxs. I found maxs were sidestepping even my best Deci shots so dumped SA in favour of the Lancer.

I don't go anywhere without it.

Fenrys · 2003-12-09, 07:24 AM

"...He will kill anything but a sniper at long ranges..."

Not if the sniper is inside the range of his gauss, and there is cover to hide behind. The bolt driver is just too innacurate to be effective w/o the element of suprise.

Liquidtide · 2003-12-09, 09:31 AM

I had the JH for about a week, loved it/hated it. I loved it in the spawn room or down the hall ways, besides that, it sucks. I got owned long range by cyclers and mcgs. It has it's strengths but since I don't carry RExo I can't rely on that as my one and only weapon. I'll stick with sniping and thumping.

SilverLord · 2003-12-09, 09:34 AM

The Rocklet and MCG pwns all you JH users. Gimme a rocklet anyday.

Xxzard · 2003-12-09, 09:45 AM

yes i love catching the jackhamer noobs in a reaver or runnin' them down, but it is also fun to have a loadout that is anti-jackhammer

try to beat me when i'm behind you with surge on and a MCG in my hands