Feedback needed on concern of possible Connery and Helos merger

[Staticelf]

I think my "localized experience" was capturing Indar the other night with the other VS so Im not sure what you are talking about. Where were your 2000 that night?

You mad pig?

[SgtMAD]

Originally Posted by Staticelf

I think my "localized experience" was capturing Indar the other night with the other VS so Im not sure what you are talking about. Where were your 2000 that night?

You mad pig?

so this game sucks so badly that the VS are now bragging about stealing a cont in the middle of the friggin night?

ya gotta be kiddin' me

[Dougnifico]

From what I can tell, when it comes to the west coast servers, Connery is in a league of its own. I've played on the others, but they usually don't have quite the coordination, cohesion, and sheer skill that is on Connery. Hey, its not the successor to Markov for nothing.

[HereticusXZ]

TTA I had my doubts about when I first heard our outfit was joining it, but damn was I dead wrong, that group is amazing. When our Outfit' armor division needs that air support to save us from those evil NC Libs (HATE YOU COMATOSE!), the TTA provides and fast.

[HelpLuperza]

Originally Posted by EVILPIG

The populations for all empires go up and down through out the day. The bottom line is more players will be better and we'll most likely see 2 conts pop-locked by all three factions with the rest on the 3rd. Global population means nothing when the cont is full and their are no Global objectives.

Question what do you mean by Global objectives?

In general, I definitely agree with you point evil pig that empires go up and down all the through out the day. In fact for fun, let take a look at the population during the cap at around 3:30 pm PST till it was uncaped around 9:30 PST.


See how the server changed as Indar cap occured till it was uncapped at around 9:30 pm PST. In fact, see how much the population of on Connery fluctuates? In fact, the population of planetside changes so much, that I think some of Energyone's fear of compete dominance of the map by the NC is not accurate. What you said put in better words why I 50% didn't agree with Energyone's opinion.


Now when we compare to Helos, I found oddly that the NC population was low. n the long term examination of population we find that the differences between NC population compared to VS and TR has been slowly growing. These two reason are why people may be concerned.

Moreover, statistically speaking I should mention that I ran the numbers using the last faction deviation information from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AmUavphHXmIxdFhHUzJfN1VYalRnWS0xMnBUdTJpM 1E&gid=22
If Connery and Helos merged then, the TR will population wise turn into Connery's VS. In other words, the merged Helos and Connery TR would not only have the the exact same World Pop the Connery VS have right now about 31%, but we would have 1% less population.
Over a week average that is about 1% is roughly difference of 627 active ids per day. (If your perceptive you notice that this is a validity discrepancy in the numbers that Cupboy and Sirisian. I am working to get that error checked).

This brings me to a concern I had while reading over your post Evilpig, I am not sure that continients will always be capped or their will be enough people on that in general world population does not matter. So can you explain you point more? So could you explain more what you mean by global objectives?

What do the rest of you guys think about world populations affect on the battlefield? In general, my belief is that we could take steps to make the world population not as big of an issue that is currently is. For example, I have found that alerts are a great tool in having a balanced fight; however, they could be improved.

Lastly, something that I am surprised no one has brought up is the issue Energyone mentioned about player boosting and intentional harassment, like beyond normal trash talk, of smaller outfits on Helos. Those are some pretty serious charges, so I was wondering what you guys might know about it. Have you heard about this before in PS2? Is their anything we can do to help encourage smaller oufits and growth the community? Is their any Connery or Helos specific problems we as need to address before the servers are merged?

edit: ok so it too 5 hours, but you get the idea
edit: Need to talk to Hamma and Sirisian to see if I can get deeper probing statistics, I be able to post more.

[snafus]

I personally haven't experienced any kinds of harassment from other factions or even within the TR. But on the grounds of how to assist in community growth and assisting smaller outfits I would love to see a Alliance system added. For instance you have the TTA and ARA both alliances with small to medium size outfits. But with the joint communications setup they have a major force multiplier. This allows for smaller outfits to call on support from other like minded outfits to support each other in a more orderly and effective manor. And allows each Outfit to keep its identity but still be a force to be reckoned with as it has more resources now.

The alliance system could also come into play with the upcoming MLG tournaments. If the Alliances were recognized it would allow smaller outfits the chance to compete without having to join a larger outfit. Sadly we have seen smaller outfits already start to be consolidated just for the chance to get into larger outfits so they can compete at all.

[Staticelf]

Great stats! Vanu lowest pop almost the whole time

[Ghstmarauder]

Originally Posted by Staticelf

Great stats! Vanu lowest pop almost the whole time

Its a target rich environment

[Staticelf]

Originally Posted by Ghstmarauder

Its a target rich environment

That is exactly why I chose Vanu when I started playing two months ago!

I find it odd that others are the reverse in that they want to be with the "winning" side which is numerically superior. Vanu of Connery have shown time and again that you can be the least pop and still "win" a few too.

NC guys must get annoyed/bored showing up to bases just to find other NC guys already milling around.

Always outnumbered = more experience for the experienced few

[Neutral Calypso]

A few more vanu would be nice. I confess, a few months ago I was considering switching to Vanu for the express purpose of getting a KICK EVERYONE'S ARSE outfit going because of how lacking Vanu were back then.

But it seems Vanu did not need my help, so now I desperately cling to what territory TR is able to get a hold of.

The Black and Red will persevere.

[Varsam]

I hope this merge happens, but I'm afraid you Connerians are getting the short end of the stick (at least you VS ones). I've played Genudine since day one, and the VS outfits were ok. They held their own. After the merge with Helios, I noticed a huge gap in effectiveness and organization between the Genudine outfits and the Helios ones (read: most of the bigger Helios outfits are God-awful). What's worse, many of the old Genudine outfits dissolved over time (for what reason I can't say) and were absorbed by said Helios outfits, which are often little better than zergs with a clan tag.

[Koadster]

Originally Posted by Neutral Calypso

A few more vanu would be nice. I confess, a few months ago I was considering switching to Vanu for the express purpose of getting a KICK EVERYONE'S ARSE outfit going because of how lacking Vanu were back then.

But it seems Vanu did not need my help, so now I desperately cling to what territory TR is able to get a hold of.

The Black and Red will persevere.

VS are currently 37% pop on Connery at the time of this post.

[RykerStruvian]

Originally Posted by Staticelf

That is exactly why I chose Vanu when I started playing two months ago!

I find it odd that others are the reverse in that they want to be with the "winning" side which is numerically superior. Vanu of Connery have shown time and again that you can be the least pop and still "win" a few too.

NC guys must get annoyed/bored showing up to bases just to find other NC guys already milling around.

Always outnumbered = more experience for the experienced few

I get more annoyed when NC has the sufficient numbers and they're just dicking around in a biolab/amp station without any form of adjacency while we're losing the rest of the continent. We had 40% of the cont yesterday during an Esamir alert and with two/four platoons of NC in Ymir and Elli.

But yes, showing up at a base with billions of TKing NC is annoying too.

As far as pop is concerned having more people is great and all, but at least NC wise we're kind of overdone on the whole infantry thing. What the NC needs is a dedicated outfit for air and I'm hoping some of the Helios boys will do that.

[snafus]

Originally Posted by RykerStruvian

I get more annoyed when NC has the sufficient numbers and they're just dicking around in a biolab/amp station without any form of adjacency while we're losing the rest of the continent. We had 40% of the cont yesterday during an Esamir alert and with two/four platoons of NC in Ymir and Elli.

But yes, showing up at a base with billions of TKing NC is annoying too.

As far as pop is concerned having more people is great and all, but at least NC wise we're kind of overdone on the whole infantry thing. What the NC needs is a dedicated outfit for air and I'm hoping some of the Helios boys will do that.

Good luck convincing people to fly against the new max abilities lol.

[Frotang]

Originally Posted by snafus

The alliance system could also come into play with the upcoming MLG tournaments. If the Alliances were recognized it would allow smaller outfits the chance to compete without having to join a larger outfit. Sadly we have seen smaller outfits already start to be consolidated just for the chance to get into larger outfits so they can compete at all.

I really hope they can do something like this, it would be really sad to force people to merge or join large outfits in order to be eligible to compete.



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