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Old 2002-11-19, 06:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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whoo hoo!


San Diego here.
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Old 2002-11-19, 06:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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thats just a trick of the angle, this is a much better example of the same tank.

edit: damn i type to slow
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Old 2002-11-19, 06:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Fallbrook actually. Damn! We all be close.. We should all hook up some time... I know Hamma is just a bit north on the edge of Orange County.

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Yeah, but it still might stand that the tanks might be the arty. =) Yeah I had a feeling the angle had something to do with it but even still, it's possible...
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Old 2002-11-19, 07:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Well the Magrinder almost certainly has an energy weapon so the only tank i can see making a viable arty sub is the Prowler with its massive, twin guns. I don't know how big they are but there both bigger then a Vanguard's (a medium tank, not heavy) gun.

I don't think that there use will ever become prominent tho, it takes 3 people to crew on and artillery is a battery weapon, so you'd need 2 squads worth of people, all with the proper certs, to put up an effective barrage, assuming you can even load explosive shells instead of armor piercing.

Edit: actually i just thought of a way it might be possible, officers can have a picture in picture of there subordinate's view, meaning you can have someone spot for you and order people to fire for effect, but that would be innefective as it would take forever to zero your fire on a certain spot, but if you know where the enemies coming from, maybe. would have to be a very specialized outfit to pull it off
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Old 2002-11-19, 07:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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I am all the way on the east coast

I think arty would be interesting. However the high speed bombers would be a bit out of balance.. they'd have to include some countermeasures like AA (i dont believe there is any AA at this time) There are automated and deployable turret systems.
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Old 2002-11-19, 07:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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use Tanks for Artillery, I doubt you'll need 3 people per tank if the tank aint moving (although would be eazy to be blown up by a rocket), I'm Defently going to use some of those tank people for artillery reasons, then once infantry get close enough have them move the tanks up..
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Old 2002-11-19, 07:09 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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both guns are independantly named so you need at least two, and you need several spotters, and escorts, and a small ammunition convoy for any sort of sustained fire, and escorts for that, and air cover, so in the end it probly comes out to 8 or 10 per tank
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Old 2002-11-19, 07:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally posted by Incompetent
thats just a trick of the angle, this is a much better example of the same tank.

edit: damn i type to slow
wtf are you talking about? trick of the angle?

its pretty fucking obvious that it has indirect fire.

all your picture shows is a tank that isn't firing and is aimed as low as possible.
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Old 2002-11-19, 07:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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i mean it's a shitty angle that throws the barrel out of proportion, it's to short for use as artilery, not enough range.

This is a Paladin, an actual 155 mm artilery piece

This is a Vanguard

This is a German PZH 155 mm self-propelled gun

notice the subtle difference between the barrels

there are no pictures of the Prowler that aren't very old, so i just guessed about them
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Old 2002-11-19, 07:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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LOL! My bad Hamma, I'm thinkin' of someone else.. shoot! Who was that.. man, you people confuse me sometimes. :lol uhhh.. BLAH! Sorry Hamma I meant Dogg, sorry Dogg confused ya for Hamma for a sec.
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Old 2002-11-20, 02:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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I thought i read a dev post somewhere about the reason there was not any specific bombers and arty units is b/c they didn't want a spamfest like tribes was.... they want skillful kills and not people racking up BEPs by the truckloads with arty spams and bombers..... (maybe it wasn't a dev post but i did read it somewhere) I would like a fast, mobile, fighter jet for dogfighting though (current PS aircraft doesn't count)
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Old 2002-11-20, 05:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Hey guys anything is possible .Like Dave said were gonna be surprised once they show this puppy off. lets hope for the best
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Old 2002-11-20, 09:13 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Hmmm all this talk about new vehicles made we wonder.... will there be lakes in PS and if so will there be boats?

I'm guessing no since a plane does the same job and lakes + boats = more resources needed again. Still makes you wonder though.
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Old 2002-11-20, 09:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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There will be water.. dunno about lakes. As far as I know there will be no boats, unless they add them in a future patch/expansion. But I am sure there are vehicles we have not seen yet
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Old 2002-11-20, 09:19 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Well the way i see it while boats would make for more weapons and different combat scenes it wouldn't be very useful since i doubt lakes and rivers will be all that useful. Maybe a sort of amphebious(sp?) vehicle would work since you could still go on land.
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