Interesting screen from Chinaside2 - Page 2

Kran De Loy · 2012-04-17, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Robotix

Strange that they wouldn't list speed, since that it supposedly the TR's main advantage.

Yeah, kinda of like how in the April PC Gamer mag they listed both Recoil and Recoil (sustained), but they forgot to include damage degradation over distance.

TOCS · 2012-04-17, 03:38 PM

What the..? Is the game published in Asia as well? Like all those other F2P shooters?

sylphaen · 2012-04-17, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by TOCS

What the..? Is the game published in Asia as well? Like all those other F2P shooters?

Yeah... Planetside was big in China as well.

Tachyr · 2012-04-17, 03:59 PM

Hmm, the Vanguard looks way to maneuverable from that chart considering the amount of armor as well.
If you are built like a battleship you shouldn't be able to turn almost as good as a Prowler.

Destroyeron · 2012-04-17, 04:50 PM

Shouldn't TR and NC armor be the same if their maneuverability is? NC just seems OP with that chart.

Zulthus · 2012-04-17, 04:52 PM

Looks sweet.

**Malorn** · 2012-04-17, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Destroyeron

Shouldn't TR and NC armor be the same if their maneuverability is? NC just seems OP with that chart.

Maneuverability != speed

Prowler is the fastest tank, and I suspect the Vanguard is the slowest, that's another important difference.

There's more than just 4 differences between the tanks.

Here's the advantages as I know it.

1) Speed
Prowler > Mag > Van
We know for sure prowler is the fastest

2) Acceleration
Prowler > Mag > Van
Total guess, but assume it follows the same trend as speed

3) Maneuverability
Mag > Prowler = Van
This reveal confirms this one.

4) Accuracy
Mag > Prowler = Van
We know mag is best, assuming others are equal (in PC mag they are but in slightly different ways)

5) Damage retention over distance
Van = Prowler > Mag
This is the accuracy balance - mag hits more but has reduced damage at range to compensate for prowlers and vans being less accurate.

6) Damage per Shot
Van > Mag > Prowler
Known before this and confirmed again.

7) Rate of Fire
Prowler > Mag > Van
Known before this and confirmed again.

8) Armor
Van > Prowler > Mag
Knew the Van was the strongest but didn't know the order of the other two. Mag strafing keeps strong front armor facing target so Prowler and Mag are probably effectively the same with speed & maneuverability of the two compensating for the difference in armor vs the mag.

Kevmo would have the definitive answer here, but there's definitely more than the 4 listed. I think I'm reasonably close with the above assessment.

SKYeXile · 2012-04-17, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by TOCS

What the..? Is the game published in Asia as well? Like all those other F2P shooters?

Ah pranetside 2 prease.

Knocky · 2012-04-17, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Ah pranetside 2 prease.

I am NOT taking your bait......but oh, how I want too.

kaffis · 2012-04-17, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Malorn

Here's the advantages as I know it.

Speculations on torque? I'm thinking that the Vanguard is probably the one able to throw its weight around since it doesn't have the speed, while the Magrider is probably a lightweight and can't push its way through much. (other than swathes of torsos... *shakes fist angrily*)

LostAlgorithm · 2012-04-18, 12:18 AM

I just have to say, the colors on that Vanguard look incredibly sexy. Needs to be a more consistent color scheme across the rest of the NC stuff. Need to see some more black and slightly darker yellows!

Kran De Loy · 2012-04-18, 12:58 AM

I can see where the Vanguard and the Prowler would have equal maneuverability because they both use track systems, Vanguard being slower can pull tighter turns while the Prowler being fast can also turn at a faster rate, but at maximum speed it would still kind of makes those turns a bit wide.

Magriders on the other hand will still 'drift' like they did in the first game that will annoy the living crap out of people I think and probably making tight turns a pain in the ass. But as was shown in the GDC videos those Magriders can get pretty high up in the air and just flat out ignore a lot of terrain problems that Vanguards and Prowlers will have to drive around.

Also being able to drive behind a boulder then slowly rise up so only the gun turret is peaking out over the top would be pretty broken so they went ahead and are keeping it on the main body of the Magrider so people don't do broken stuff like that.

Not that I like the fact that Mags won't be able to use cover like any sane person would want to when they have the least amount of armor among the three of them, but I can understand why they would do it that way.

Shogun · 2012-04-18, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Kran De Loy

But as was shown in the GDC videos those Magriders can get pretty high up in the air and just flat out ignore a lot of terrain problems that Vanguards and Prowlers will have to drive around.

you realized that the flying magrider was a bug? it was confirmed by the devs already. and i guess it was no coincidence, that the display-cable disconnected a few seconds after this silly ufo bug showed up on the demo

Tamas · 2012-04-18, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Ah pranetside 2 prease.

Impossibru

On topic - well Vanguard having best armor and gun will suit me as a heavy tank, while Lightning will fill the fast/nimble light tank. Having said that I would love to try the other tanks as well - pity you can't steal them

Well Mag for sure, as I will have a VS alt.

Erendil · 2012-04-18, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Malorn

Maneuverability != speed

Prowler is the fastest tank, and I suspect the Vanguard is the slowest, that's another important difference.

There's more than just 4 differences between the tanks.

Here's the advantages as I know it.

1) Speed
Prowler > Mag > Van
We know for sure prowler is the fastest

2) Acceleration
Prowler > Mag > Van
Total guess, but assume it follows the same trend as speed

3) Maneuverability
Mag > Prowler = Van
This reveal confirms this one.

4) Accuracy
Mag > Prowler = Van
We know mag is best, assuming others are equal (in PC mag they are but in slightly different ways)

5) Damage retention over distance
Van = Prowler > Mag
This is the accuracy balance - mag hits more but has reduced damage at range to compensate for prowlers and vans being less accurate.

6) Damage per Shot
Van > Mag > Prowler
Known before this and confirmed again.

7) Rate of Fire
Prowler > Mag > Van
Known before this and confirmed again.

8) Armor
Van > Prowler > Mag
Knew the Van was the strongest but didn't know the order of the other two. Mag strafing keeps strong front armor facing target so Prowler and Mag are probably effectively the same with speed & maneuverability of the two compensating for the difference in armor vs the mag.

Kevmo would have the definitive answer here, but there's definitely more than the 4 listed. I think I'm reasonably close with the above assessment.

Pretty much what I was thinking too. Although I think I'd give the Mag the best acceleration to fit in with its top ranked maneuverability. IMO the Prowler's gear ratio would make it a little slower to get up to speed but once it gets there it can really move.

Gotta say tho that if those graphs are right I'm a little irritated about the Mag's armour. We were told earlier this year that the Prowler was the fastets tank but that the Mag had more armour to make up for it. Now that doesn't appear to be the case.

IMO the fastest tank should have the weakest armour. Unless the Mag significantly outdamages the Prowler up close, all the Prowler would need to do is run straight for any Mag it sees, since the Mag can't outrun it and can't take as much punishment.