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2011-07-16, 08:13 PM | [Ignore Me] #16 | |||
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In another thread on this topic, Atranox had a good post.
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2011-07-16, 08:15 PM | [Ignore Me] #17 | ||
He already mentioned that in this thread. I updated the OP reflecting what he said.
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2011-07-16, 08:54 PM | [Ignore Me] #18 | |||
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This in the end means that ATI handles high poly models better, while NVidia will handle complex shaders better. And THAT is the difference between the two. Other brands can pretty much be disregarded, as they don't come anywhere near ATI and NVidia. This in the end means that it depends on what the game in question is optimized for as to which runs better. |
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2011-07-16, 11:18 PM | [Ignore Me] #19 | |||
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Now i wont be an Nvidia fanboy or anything, these things change with each generation. I'm learnin to just adapt to the reality of whats available and currently Nvidia is the superior choice hands down. |
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2011-07-17, 02:21 AM | [Ignore Me] #20 | |||
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2011-07-17, 02:53 AM | [Ignore Me] #22 | |||
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At 1280x1024, both companies are about equal in regards to power efficiency and value...at anything higher, AMD win by far on performance per dollar and performance per watt (though those with 1024x728 will want to go with Nvidia). When it comes to DX11 games it seems to depend on the game. I just went through a bunch of reviews comparing 6950s to 570s. In Metro 2033 and AVP, the 6950 equals 570, while on Lost Planet 2 a 560ti will beat out a 6970. So for anyone with a strict budget, they'd probably get more out of an AMD card, unless they were specifically planning on playing a game AMD cards fail with, which brings us to PS2... I suggest we wait until beta before advising people on their purchasing choices. We could end up in a situation where 560s are beating 6970s, or we could end up with equivalent cards being pretty much equal. It would seem a bit silly for SOE to tell people their game will run on 5 year old rigs and then at release have people discover "oh, but that's only for Nvidia cards", so I'm guessing it's more likely to be the latter scenario, but who knows? |
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2011-07-17, 06:29 AM | [Ignore Me] #23 | ||
Vancha why are you using so low resolutions? Anything 1680x1050 to 1920x1200 in mainstream these days.
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2011-07-17, 08:54 AM | [Ignore Me] #26 | ||
Get off those old resolutions. I cannot understand how you guys can stand playing on those. The added viewing in games is easily worth the upgrade.
Right now anything above a GTX 550 Ti or 5770 is complete overkill for 1280x1024 and under. My 4670 was more then playable at that resolution. Lunar what are you using to have 120 screens?? I actually may grab a ASUS VG236HE that is 23 inches, 1920x1080, and most of all 120Hz. I really want to see if there is a difference. If I get it from Best Buy and don't care for it I can just return it for free .
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SS89Goku - NC - BR33 - CR5||LFO? Want help upgrading/building a new computer? Will your desktop/laptop run PS2? How PhysX runs on Nvidia and AMD (ATI) systems PlanetSide Universe Rules Last edited by Goku; 2011-07-17 at 08:57 AM. |
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2011-07-17, 09:01 AM | [Ignore Me] #27 | |||
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I hope it is too, that's my cheap upgrade from an HD4850 512MB. For 150+"rebate" it's a good deal. Specially since I hardly Play pc games anymore. I'm also hoping my e8400 @ 3.5Ghz is ok, I'll push it to 4.1Ghz again, but I was running abit high vcore.
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2011-07-17, 09:13 AM | [Ignore Me] #28 | ||
Push it and if it dies you have a excuse to upgrade . Did you end up getting that GTX 460, 465, or something entirely different?
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SS89Goku - NC - BR33 - CR5||LFO? Want help upgrading/building a new computer? Will your desktop/laptop run PS2? How PhysX runs on Nvidia and AMD (ATI) systems PlanetSide Universe Rules Last edited by Goku; 2011-07-17 at 09:15 AM. |
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2011-07-17, 10:59 AM | [Ignore Me] #29 | |||
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I would think that using the GPU-accelerated PhysX would be extremely disappointing and a poor business decision. A few years ago...probably not, as NVIDIA had about 70% of the share. Since AMD's 5000 series, they've regained a lot and it's something like 55%/45% now as far as GPU market share goes. I really can't see SOE excluding half of their player base. Most game developers that have used PhysX on the GPU recently basically were paid off by NVIDIA. Another point to consider is that GPU-accererated PhysX has a very large hit on performance, even for NVIDIA users. Being, an MMO, I really can't fathom SOE implementing such a gigantic resource hog. On the contrast, the PhysX engine is very nice and results in some great performance and effects. In terms of PhysX 3.0, it has been released to developers - but not much is known about it yet. Most of the information has come from NVIDIA's marketing team, so it's difficult to accept any of it as fact. The biggest change is, as you mentioned, it should run better on the CPU if necessary. It's tough to say though, because NVIDIA has worked very hard to prevent PhysX from being useful on system that don't have an NVIDIA card. Honestly, many consider PhysX is in a pretty bad spot right now, and I really don't know how long it will maintain relevancy. It just isn't a good business decision for game developers to use effects that only half of the consumer base can utilize (especially when there are other comparable engines/effects). |
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2011-07-17, 01:04 PM | [Ignore Me] #30 | ||
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Your Nvidia / AMD stats are off Atranox. Its 59% Nvidia to 33% AMD. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
Using AMD myself, still does excellent in games while at the same time sending very nice HDMI 7.1 sound to my receiver. Vancha, if your running 1280 x 1024, I'd suggest a new monitor the next time your in the market. Whatever your PC buying budget is, split it in half. Half goes to the monitor and half the PC. You'll have the LCD for much longer than you keep that PC. |
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