Should PS2 have a Russian server? - Page 2

RedKnights · 2012-06-16, 08:01 AM

Well, that is all up to The9 I believe, so no point voicing your concerns here

I SandRock · 2012-06-16, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by RedKnights

Well, that is all up to The9 I believe, so no point voicing your concerns here

The9 is the chinese one? Pro7 is the EU one? :P

Just curious what other people think of it, besides PS devs still come here and have an influence on things

Immigrant · 2012-06-16, 08:14 AM

Russian should have a separate server (those would be used by Belarus, Ukranians and other too)... it's not the cheating that worries me but their numbers combined with poor knowledge of english - language barrier.

Most russians don't speak english very well and prefer to use russian, and they can get away with that without penalties (game wise) because they have strength in numbers.

These kind of problem are specific for Euro servers because of many different languages...

There should also be rules to force the use of english on official Empire channel... other languages could be used but only in Outfit channels or within squads... Also please do not allow use of cyrillics signs on common Euro servers.

Meriv · 2012-06-16, 08:14 AM

i Would give them a server first for cultural difference (language) second because they are quite a big f2p market.(and if PS2 is succesfull, that after PCmagazine i believe a lot ;take in consideration WOT just russian server is 3 times the sum of EU+US)

Xaine · 2012-06-16, 08:18 AM

Must say, I've played a lot of MMOs and I've never had a good experience with Russians.

In Age of Conan for example, RUSCORP and Red Army would kill anyone who didn't speak Russian.

They just seem to be, in my experience, extremely xenophobic and make little or no attempt to integrate themselves into the wider community. They just stay in their Russian guilds and swear at anyone that doesn't speak Russian.

You don't get his from any other European community.

ringring · 2012-06-16, 08:23 AM

I do not agree with this point. From my experience in PS the russians have always been excellent people and Red October, Russian Spec Ops are all a great outfits.

The point about different servers for different nationalities does worry me a bit. Safe to say on Werner we were all a happy family so to speak, there were some nationality based outfits but whether national or multinational we all got on together. If the gane starts off being national based and then servers start to merge later on I don't know if that will still be the case.

NewSith · 2012-06-16, 08:30 AM

This was broght up a few times quite a while back.

Russian server will idd solve things, because free to play model attracts too many russian schoolboys, that basically doesn't differ from US CoD crowd, with the only difference being latter speaking english.

But in fact my heart is at ease more or less, because:
A) Audience that like the style of APB actually differs from PlnetSide audience.
B) Global chat is not available to everybody.
C) PlanetSide 1 old russian guard (including meself, of course) will try and give the newcomers a hint on the reason why keeping the comms clear is important.
D) I expect EU server not to support cyrillics. There go all your проблемы с переводом.

As for WoT - you do realise it IS a russian game? And speaking of numbers - there isn't many people in Russia who prefer BF-type of games, so I don't think it'll get THAT popular here.

Originally Posted by ringring

I do not agree with this point. From my experience in PS the russians have always been excellent people and Red October, Russian Spec Ops are all a great outfits.

F2P crowd, Hill... Terrible crowd.

Xaine · 2012-06-16, 08:31 AM

If that's the case then I have nonissue with it.

Just in my experiences, Russians tend to be more trouble than they're worth. But that's only my experience.

I'm English and we're not known for being angels either lol

I hope I'm proved wrong

Immigrant · 2012-06-16, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by ringring

The point about different servers for different nationalities does worry me a bit.

Russian are simply too big as a market group not to have a server of their own, it's not nationality thing. They can afford to form all russians clans/outfits simply because they will be the most numerous....

There will be 3(continents)x3(empires)x666(players per side per continent)=5994 that's means around 6000 people sustainable per server and I believe russian-speaking gamers would easily fill 5 or 6 servers like these. I'd like to avoid being stuck into a russian prevalent server that's why I would like SOE to make separate servers for them from the start... it sucks being stuck playing with people whose language you don't understand well... I understand a bit of russian because it's similar to my mother language but not enough to facilitate communication with ease. If russian used english there would be no problems but I doubt they will if they are not forced somehow.

Originally Posted by NewSith

D) I expect EU server not to support cyrillics. There go all your проблемы с переводом.

Yeah I hope this will be the case and we won't have any translation problems.

p.s. Ja osobno razumijem ponešto ruskog i znam ćirilicu pa razumijem većinu onoga što Rusi napišu, ali svejedno više volim koristiti engleski kada igram kompjutorske igre preko mreže.

NewSith · 2012-06-16, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Immigrant

Russian are simply to big as a market group not to have a server of their own, it's not nationality thing. They can afford to form all russians clans/outfits simply because they will be the most numerous....

There will be 3(continents)x3(empires)x666(players per side per continent)=5994 that's means around 6000 people sustainable per server and I believe russian-speaking gamers would easily fill 5 or 6 servers like these. I'd like to avoid being stuck into a russian prevalent server that's why I would like SOE to make separate servers for them from the start... it sucks being stuck playing with people whose language you don't understand well... I understand a bit of russian because it's similar to my mother language but not enough to facilitate communication with ease. If russian used english there would be no problems but I doubt they will if they are not forced somehow.

If there's no Russian server at launch, old russian PS players will take the mission.

ringring · 2012-06-16, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Immigrant

Russian are simply to big as a market group not to have a server of their own, it's not nationality thing. They can afford to form all russians clans/outfits simply because they will be the most numerous....

There will be 3(continents)x3(empires)x666(players per side per continent)=5994 that's means around 6000 people sustainable per server and I believe russian-speaking gamers would easily fill 5 or 6 servers like these. I'd like to avoid being stuck into a russian prevalent server that's why I would like SOE to make separate servers for them from the start... it sucks being stuck playing with people whose language you don't understand well... I understand a bit of russian because it's similar to my mother language but not enough to facilitate communication with ease. If russian used english there would be no problems but I doubt they will if they are not forced somehow.

Also remember it will not be 6000 people per server, it will be many more but of course they won't all be online at the same time.

Also remember in Europe there are also different time zones which will spread activity out.

Having said that, on launch it's going to be interesting to see how many servers SOE go with.

Xaine · 2012-06-16, 08:50 AM

The time zones for Europe have a two hour difference between the UK and eastern Europe, that's not a lot at all. There won't be much activity difference I wouldn't think.

Immigrant · 2012-06-16, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by ringring

Also remember it will not be 6000 people per server, it will be many more but of course they won't all be online at the same time.

Also remember in Europe there are also different time zones which will spread activity out.

Having said that, on launch it's going to be interesting to see how many servers SOE go with.

First point only adds to the problem since some guys will have to wait just to login once the Rooskies start to flood the servers (and they will since this is f2p). Since most russian gamers come from european regions of Russian Federacy that use Moscow Time i honestly doubt the time zone difference (2 hours difference from CET) will spread out the activity that much.

Grapes · 2012-06-16, 08:56 AM

Please, for the love of god. Let them have their own server...

Meriv · 2012-06-16, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by ringring

Also remember it will not be 6000 people per server, it will be many more but of course they won't all be online at the same time.

Just lets give a number from WOT russian server(ok it isnt a game made by them for them but who knows how well will go ps2?
475k peak gaming at same time
6.6 million registered.
2.2 million active since last week.
472k (7%) in clans
1.8 mill (28%) with over 1k games.
and 310000 new users this month.(4.6%)

I think they will spam quite a LOT of servers for them.