Stop SOPA From Becoming Law - Page 2

Shogun · 2011-12-16, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Agreed and I exercise that right myself but Congress just ignores the people and is controlled by $$$$

that´s why i have hope this bill will not get through! $$$$=google and facebook

Captain1nsaneo · 2011-12-16, 12:00 PM

Actually there's a few academic journal articles about the need for more money in politics. Though I'm sure you'll disregard my comment with out looking up any of the arguments because after all politicians are all corrupt thieves.

Captain1nsaneo · 2011-12-16, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

Let them do it.

By all means I hope they do in fact do it.

I will get on Origin, Battlenet, Steam, and every other fucking site I can using Charles, A-bots and DNS hiding and spam torrents, for every type of software imaginable.... constantly. I will use bounce connections and airtime cards from walmart or dollar general that aren't traceable, meanwhile they shut the internet off.

I won't be the only one doing it either, thousands of others will do the same thing.

And when EA gets shut off, fuckin heads are gonna roll.

And this is why I love the internet.

Captain1nsaneo · 2011-12-16, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

They won't pass this bill man. The fact of it is, it will further crush this economy and I don't believe this is their agenda. I see the point to stop piracy, but to ban an entire fucking site or host when some random asshole could pop in and put a torrent link up. It's just not possible... Even as old and stupid as some of these people are, they can surely see this will destory the American web based economy.

Yeah, that's close to my logic as well. I hadn't sent any mail to my reps before Hamma asked because I simply didn't see any chance of it passing. Thing is if you actually read SOPA's CRS Summary you can see how it's gotten as much support as it has. It makes a point of adding protection for stolen trade secrets and attacks counterfeit drugs and false advertising.

Dorest0rm · 2011-12-16, 12:48 PM

http://www.reddit.com/r/SOPA/comment...mergency_list/

This might be useful.

Mastachief · 2011-12-16, 12:58 PM

signed the outside u.s one

Captain1nsaneo · 2011-12-16, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

That is like everything the goverment has been doing lately. They add good shit in with the bad.... We will protect you from fake cialis, but we can also shut your site down because lee chin posted his fake cialis website's link on your site.

If for some reason this does go into play, they will have a full scale virtual war on their hands. Literally.

The reason things are bundled together these days is because it's very hard for a bill to get through congress. If you have something that you want done soon you have a much better chance of getting it passed quickly by adding it as an amendment.

Ghryphen · 2011-12-16, 01:25 PM

http://www.reddit.com/r/SOPA/comment...ed_until_2012/

Hyncharas · 2011-12-16, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Congress is currently pushing forward a bill that they do not understand and will not make an attempt to understand. (sound familiar) The SOPA Act will create Internet blacklists and allow the government control over what is easily one of the greatest inventions of the modern age.

I sympathise, but it's not like anyone (even people like me in other countries) have much choice in the matter. This is happening only because several members of Congress have shares in a number of entertainment or digital companies and get payoffs from that.

Whenever politicians are involved it's never about the costs suffered for the people who put them there, but how much money they are losing because society says no to them.

Marth Koopa · 2011-12-16, 01:45 PM

Man if Google is against this, we really don't need to do anything ourselves.

Google will save us

Hamma · 2011-12-16, 02:46 PM

It passing is still a real possibility imo - it's important everyone know about it because it destroys the internet as we know it. These morons' haven't a clue about how the internet functions they just care about kids downloading MP3 files and are willing to break the entire internet in order to support their agendas.

Gryphon's link is good news though we may yet see some sense talked into these people because listening to some of these guys talk about DNS made my head explode they haven't a clue.

Now.. on to NDAA.

Shogun · 2011-12-16, 03:31 PM

id this bill passes, and the first forum is shut down because a random idiot put up a torrent, i can foresee, what will happen...

talking about virtual warfare... just remember what happened, when sony aggravated some hackers... now imagine what will happen if someone more or less tries to shut down the internet as we know it.
the us gouvernment will face a rough time when all hackers unite to fight this bullshit.
we have seen, that those hackers dare to risk their freedom for much less than internet censorship, they will not be impressed by the fact that its the us gouvernment, they are fighting.

i hope those politicians are bright enough to realize that threat and all the consequences it will bear, and stop this stupid bill

xSquirtle · 2011-12-16, 03:36 PM

By 2012, we'll be locked away in military camp's, with no due process hearing and no word to advise people of whats happening.

12-12-12 is less then a year away... Coincidence?

basti · 2011-12-16, 04:03 PM

Seriously guys, whats the hasssle?

For the off chance of this bill passing through, servers will just be moved to somewhere else. Quite a few ISPs and hosters in Canada and Mexico are watching this very closley. If this passes, they will upgrade their stuff as quickly as possible, giving everyone the choice to just host stuff there.
Google will move their stuff elsewhere as well. And if nessesary, relocate their entire business. Only a few morons not understanding whats going on will get in trouble, the actual crowd will just laugh, move their stuff, and laugh again.

It will just hit a good bunch of hosters based in the US. They will go down, and thats it.

Oh, and Shogun, about those hackers stuff: Anon, as well as a whole bunch of yet unknown groups, watch this closley as well. And if this bill passes, and gets executed, i forsee the first Internet based Civil war in history. THAT will be fun to watch.

Ailos · 2011-12-16, 04:20 PM

I really hope the rest of the american political system will com through on this one even if Congress doesn't - the Supreme Court has upheld less obvious principles as freedom of speech. This particular bill totally doesn't do anything to solve the actual job, and although there's no proof that anyone is currently trying to censor anyone or anything, given the ability, it's only a matter of time before someone will try. So all in all, I've called my congressmen (both House and the two Texas senators) multiple times about this and written letters to all three - you've got my vote against this cause.

And on a side note, it's slightly amusing how much this bill reinvigorates the "Texas should secede" attitude around here, lol.

EDIT: Also, I really hope Obama finds the balls to veto this shit if it reaches his desk.