NC will still be good on emerald - Page 2

Madcow · 2003-07-22, 01:39 PM

The other thing that makes it seem like the Lasher is everywhere is the distinct disco balls filling the air. It doesn't take many Lasher users to really spam the air, so even if there aren't many people using it then it looks like every purple guy around is firing one. It's almost like walking into a base a month ago and hearing the constant unique sound of the Jackhammer over and over (a sound I learned to loathe). I think that the Lasher is going to get a lot worse before it dies down, though. People are just playing with their new toy, give them some time to enjoy it. The JH at it's peak seemed to be used by a much higher percentage of the NC, but I found that over time a lot of NC seemed to either have dropped the cert or decided to use new tactics/different weapons inside to keep from being bored. The Lasher needs to plateau before it can come back to reality though.

Indecisive · 2003-07-22, 06:13 PM

I concur. I accually wasnt on for the launch of the lib, but im guessing you saw a hella lot of liberators when it was first launched. How many of these people have sold their certs after this?

Give it time. Lasher will come back into perpective, and untill then WTFH all you damn empire switchers get the HELL offa vs on emerald! we can win w/o your help.

I think its more fun watching nc whine about lashers, then the accual boost. If they woulda switched when the jh was peaked...they wouldnt bitch so much.

Go lasher love

nonentity · 2003-07-22, 06:50 PM

As Gohan said.

Yeah, there were a lot of libs, and then they slowly dissappeared, same will happen with the lasher.

And yeah, can all the empire switches drokk off, I don't want to play as part of a zerg, I want tactics (which we did have

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termin8ter · 2003-07-23, 12:33 AM

I agree with ag instead of upping all weapons they should have just nerfed the jh. Id prefer a good firefight as to having to respawn all the time. Im sure the vanu fealt the same way on emrald as we were the ones with the numbers and stronger weapons. sure takes the excitement outa it when youre whole empire only has 5 bases on a world. and all you can do is try and hold those (no points in that except for kills) Cya in the trenches term

SandTrout · 2003-07-23, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Diddy Mao
I think for the patch they should have Increased the Damage "OR" Increased Speed....NOt both of em!

I agree 100% that they should have only increased on variable on the laster instead of 2.

As for all of you who say that its just that the disco balls are more noticable is the only reason it seams like nearly every vanu uses a lasher, you are worng.

I play an infil suit so I try to stay away from the main part of the fighting when I can, but I've seen the Vanu at the equipment terminals geting their shit, and I'd say that at the very least 1/3 of the Vanu get lashers. Also, I try to scavenge off pulsars as well after major fights with the vanu, but guess what, only about 1 in 5-10 backpacks have puslars, instead, about 2/3-3/4 have lashers.

Another thing I would like to point out is that while the Vanu have been doing poorly prior the patch, the NC wasnt doing all that well ethier despite our "n00bhammer". We were always constantly fighting for control of cyssor and Hossin and rarely took signifigant amounts of basses outside our home continents. I dont think I've ever seen the NC lock Searhus(which is supposed to be the closest thing to a neutal continent).

However, I agree that the JH was unbalanced compared to the other HA weapons. The reason we did only reasonably well prior to the patch is because the JH was the only weapon that wasnt weaker to it's other empires' counterparts.

NC MAXes suck, the special ability is useless for combat(shield shuts down when fireing, and is weak as hell anyways). The Gauss is worse at close and medium range than the cycler or pulsar, and its hard as hell to shoot down a reaver with a phoenix. The Vangaurd was ok, but the Enforcer was useless against anything except the Prowler.

*Edit: Iforgot to mention that the Falcon is compleatly useless against anything that moves faster than infantry.*

Cease · 2003-07-23, 06:00 AM

Will the Lasher numbers decrease? Maybe. But its proving to be one of the top weapons in the game. I wouldn't expect the number of Lashers to go down too much. Unless its changed, you're going to get the Lasher in disgusting dosages for a long time.

Jounar · 2003-07-23, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by SandTrout
but the Enforcer was useless against anything except the Prowler.

All I can say is that you must really suck. The enforcer is the best of the 3 empire buggies. The amount of kill's I have gotten in one of those as gunner with my little NC is unreal. It owns at tower fights and the splash damage off it is just so sweet. Id swap the Thresher for the Enforcer any day.

Jounar · 2003-07-23, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Cease
Will the Lasher numbers decrease? Maybe. But its proving to be one of the top weapons in the game. I wouldn't expect the number of Lashers to go down too much. Unless its changed, you're going to get the Lasher in disgusting dosages for a long time.

You mean like the amount of NC welding Jackhammers or TR welding Strikers and MCG's?

Aegis · 2003-07-23, 07:59 AM

You mean like the amount of NC welding Jackhammers or TR welding Strikers and MCG's?

Not even comparable, there's far more VS with lashers than NC or TR using HA, at least double the percentage i would say.

Jounar · 2003-07-23, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Aegis
Not even comparable, there's far more VS with lashers than NC or TR using HA, at least double the percentage i would say.

True on the second fucking day man. Give it a chance to settle down. Lots of people dropped certs to try the new improved Lasher and will soon go back to there usual certs.

And the amount of MCG's that I seen on the bodies of dead TR's is way more than you make out not to mention the fact that very few NC ground troops dont carry the Jackhammer speaks for itself. I honestly cant remember the last time I died to a NC trooper indoors that wasnt by the Jackhammer.

Madcow · 2003-07-23, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Jounar
True on the second fucking day man. Give it a chance to settle down. Lots of people dropped certs to try the new improved Lasher and will soon go back to there usual certs.

And the amount of MCG's that I seen on the bodies of dead TR's is way more than you make out not to mention the fact that very few NC ground troops dont carry the Jackhammer speaks for itself. I honestly cant remember the last time I died to a NC trooper indoors that wasnt by the Jackhammer.

I used to have the MCG cert, tried it out for a while and just couldn't handle how useless it was. I'll freely admit I dropped some certs to get the MCG again once these changes went through. Like the Lasher users, we're enjoying our new toy. I think the MCG users will stabilize quicker than the Lasher users though, the MCG is fun but it's certainly not changing the tides of battles. Before this last patch seeing an MCG user was RARE though.

Jounar · 2003-07-23, 11:19 AM

Are you serious? The amount of MCG user's on both Konreid and Wernier is huge. Maybe the Vanu will keep the Lasher cert, I know I will as its so nice to be finaly able to kill someone playing as a Vanu. Before the last patch it was so much harder playing my Vanu than playing my NC. The enemy just seemed to die easier and quicker to my NC guy.

Zatrais · 2003-07-23, 11:46 AM

Current lasher = jackhammer 2.0

Be nuts to be a vs player whitout one.