Stop crackin on the lasher - Page 2

00AgentDuck · 2003-07-29, 10:19 PM

I agree

ZerokoolX · 2003-07-29, 11:32 PM

Okay the TR are not going crazy cuz the lasher is a little better. But the NC are whining like a Two year old that get his ball took away. Just cuz the NC have to think and fight smarter to win instead of just gunnin and runnin is not a bad thing. It's nice not to have to out smart everyone every time. Us VS need something. some of the NC are not as Dumb most of you fight

Indecisive · 2003-07-29, 11:50 PM

hehe the thing is that the lasher sucks at range anyway and im picking up SA next time i play so the "nerf" doesnt do much anyway.

I can still pwn those noobhammers
(refering to the noobs who use the jackhammer, not the jackhammer itself)

Who hit q and hold down the left mouse button.

If you dont even have to think about what the hell you are doing you deserve to die.

But yeah i find it ironic that after what one week they nerf the vanu, whilst after a month, of constant complaints from both VS and TR they dont do jack shit.

Hamma · 2003-07-30, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by ZerokoolX
Lasher is not a super weapon. Lasher is fine the way is. The only thing i want to change about it is the rate of fire. I can't hit anything at over 20 ft away. The thing shoots like a one legged cat without a head. So stop your crap the JH is the best weapon in the game. All the other HA are two times the weapon the lasher is. So stop crackin cuz VS gained a little power.

I can defeat a lasher.

With a thermo-nuclear warhead...

which isnt in PS

SumYungGui · 2003-07-30, 12:47 AM

lasher: buffed after what, two months now? barely a week later, it's nerfed for being too powerful. lemme repeat that, something FROM THE VANU SOVEREIGNTY was 'too powerful' because it was hurting both infantry and armor. Vanu sovereignty...the same empire that's had it's 'flexiblity' advantage force-fed to it as an excuse for every one of it's weapons blowing chunks. yeah, makes sense to me as well

Pounder/Cycler MAXes: everyone except the most die-hard TR asshats unwilling to accept balance issues said they were unbalanced from day one of the half-baked AV/AI switch with the DC. how long did it take to get a 'nerf', and a nerf that was pretty damn pathetic to boot?

ShitF....sorry, StarFire MAX: sucked rocks since the back into beta, still not buffed.

beamer? check. quasar? oh, wait... it got a bigger clip at the cost of AP damage...check. Thresher? still check, the 'buffs' suck and the common pool buggy is still better.

but we have the MagRider! or some such bullshit that tries to make it sound like we have the only tank in the game. we have the jumpjets! which were nerfed to fucking hell and back and now warrant 'threat to presonal safety' status on top of that. we have the lancer! and it can hurt infantry! not nearly as good as a bolt driver, and exceedingly difficult to use as an anti vehicle weapon. but hey, IT'S FLEXIBLE!

I really don't really believe, or want to even begin to think there's some secret agenda to fuck up and screw over the VS, but holy hell the evidence really points that way.

tmax · 2003-07-30, 01:00 AM

stop your whining, there nerfing the lasher because everyone has one and it pwns andthing at clost range, and now it pwns everything at long range too. i could start a whining contest with you about how the tr have nothing but its max's but i dont need to, make out with what your delt

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by tmax
stop your whining, there nerfing the lasher because everyone has one and it pwns andthing at clost range, and now it pwns everything at long range too. i could start a whining contest with you about how the tr have nothing but its max's but i dont need to, make out with what your delt

The TR have a lot more than their MAXs, and the Lasher sucks from long range. The crappy aim on the thing doesn't hurt it too bad out to medium range, but at long range they spread out so much that dodging them is easier than winning a race at the rest home.

OutlawSZ · 2003-07-30, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Madcow
The TR have a lot more than their MAXs, and the Lasher sucks from long range. The crappy aim on the thing doesn't hurt it too bad out to medium range, but at long range they spread out so much that dodging them is easier than winning a race at the rest home.

long, meduim or short..makes no difference. not sure how you could say that it sucks from long range. do you use one or are you on the receiving end of this gift from above?

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by OutlawSZ
long, meduim or short..makes no difference. not sure how you could say that it sucks from long range. do you use one or are you on the receiving end of this gift from above?

I only play my 2 TR chars seriously, but I have NC and VS chars on other servers to test things out. I spent a long evening testing the Lasher, and it flat out sucks from long range. If you think it's good from long range at the receiving end, you haven't used one. Even crouching and firing you have little to no control over the orbs at such a distance, they're literally all over the place. It does make a difference, and exaggerating the effectiveness with the weapon doesn't really help the argument. From CQB to medium range I was running around slaughtering with that gun (and it is a n00b weapon, I was purposely running around using zero tactics and wiping the floor with people), as soon as I was past a certain point from a medium distance I'd get slaughtered by the Cycler/Gauss in short order.

OutlawSZ · 2003-07-30, 11:50 AM

I would not have believed it if I didnt see it for myself on a number of occasions. Up close its incredibly effective, no doubt about that. But it seems just as effective long range as well. I believe they even went as far as to tone this down in the public test server? I could be mistaken about this though.

00AgentDuck · 2003-07-30, 12:11 PM

At long range the orbs travel so slow that if you just crouched and cralwed away the orbs wouldn't hit you. And not to metion the fact said earlier that the orbs fly all over the place because of it's CoF. The only way you could get killed by a lasher at long range is if you tried, you have 1 hitpoint and happen to get lashed, or your away from your computer, but still if you don't move with the big CoF it would take awhile for you to be hit with the lasher. Don't worry about my sig, this is my tr guy, he has the most kills by about 20 or so now, of my vs or nc guy. I play all three empires.

Eliaas_Demens · 2003-07-30, 12:13 PM

MCG > all. Tracer lag is more effective than anything I've been shot with.

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Eliaas_Demens
MCG > all. Tracer lag is more effective than anything I've been shot with.

Are you actually implying that the MCG lags the game worse than the Lashers? Ain't no way the tracer lag even touches the disco ball lag.

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by OutlawSZ
I would not have believed it if I didnt see it for myself on a number of occasions. Up close its incredibly effective, no doubt about that. But it seems just as effective long range as well. I believe they even went as far as to tone this down in the public test server? I could be mistaken about this though.

They are having the damage degrade over distance, so that getting hammered at medium range + with the lasher won't still be instant death. This isn't a case of the weapon being too powerful from long range, it's a case of the weapon having a distinct advantage from all other weapons which don't hit as hard from a distance.

CrazyCrazy · 2003-07-30, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Madcow
The TR have a lot more than their MAXs, and the Lasher sucks from long range. The crappy aim on the thing doesn't hurt it too bad out to medium range, but at long range they spread out so much that dodging them is easier than winning a race at the rest home.

So what?? ALL Heavy Assault suck at long range. Moron.