New Core Combat Info! - Page 2

Madcow · 2003-08-19, 11:50 AM

SWG is bug-ridden like crazy, but has massive patches on a weekly basis which eliminate many bugs and which add massive amounts of new content. They're slow to address individual concerns, but they do address individual concerns. The scope of the game is so large that it comes as no surprise that they didn't have the time to incorporate space travel and an expansion pack specifically for that actually makes logical sense.

PS has fewer bugs, and has occasional patches which normally increase the bug number and which seldom add any true content. They don't address individual concerns. The scope of the game is large for a FPS, but many of the complaints that people have had about the game and missing content don't seem to make sense as to why they were unable to add them to the existing game.

Oddly enough, I've let my SWG subscription lapse and am still playing PS. In the end I just really want the game to succeed, but have increasing doubts about that happening. Everybody talks about the expansion attracting new players. I have serious doubts about that as well, and am one of the apparently weird people who is considering cancelling because of this expansion. I don't believe the game is actually worth the monthly fee that I continue to pay as it stands, and I have a hard time swallowing whatever amount they'll charge for the expansion. We'll see how they incorporate it and whether or not people without the expansion will truly be able to use the additional weapons and vehicles. If they aren't, I'm out without thinking twice. If they are, and the devs are telling the truth on that one, I'll most likely at least stick around to see how it works.

RoboBlade · 2003-08-19, 12:18 PM

I don't believe the game is actually worth the monthly fee that I continue to pay as it stands,

The monthly fee works out to about $0.43 /day. IMO, I would rather play PS, bugs or no bugs, rather than save the money for a pack of crackers or gum.

Does anyone know if people with the new core expansion can play with the ones who don't get it?

Madcow · 2003-08-19, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by RoboBlade
The monthly fee works out to about $0.43 /day. IMO, I would rather play PS, bugs or no bugs, rather than save the money for a pack of crackers or gum.

The monthly fee also works out to 2 movie tickets. There are a million ways to rationalize it, but we are paying $13 a month for hosting and supposedly for support and for new content. The hosting has been good enough that we really can't complain. The support has been bad and the new content has been poor at best. Now we find out that rather than giving us promised content they've been focusing their resources on an expansion to try and get us to spend more money.

It's hard to rationalize $13 a month for that.

Does anyone know if people with the new core expansion can play with the ones who don't get it?

Supposedly you can play together above ground, and supposedly the weapons/vehicles brought up from the caverns can be used even by those who haven't bought the expansion. We'll see how that plays out. In the meantime, when the expansion first rolls out we'll most likely see a time where everybody with the expansion is under ground and everybody without is above ground.

Ghryphen · 2003-08-19, 12:25 PM

Wasn't this news on the 16th? Hamma beat ya to it :o

ThEOnLyOnE · 2003-08-19, 12:46 PM

speaking for my self here..
but when i first heard of planetside it was on inside cover of the front page of a pc gamer..
when i heard MMOFPS.. i was like OMG FINALLY!!!
there is not another game like it out..yet..
and ill stay playing PS and buy the expanison..

you guyz should of known that when SmokeJumper left to Sr. desgin that there was something up with that..
as soon as i heard that he left producer to Sr design.. expanison pack came to my mind..
they want to attract consumers and give people what they want..
and they will do what they feel will get the job done..

Ignore Me · 2003-08-19, 12:51 PM

The cavern module benefits are a different system, but in some cases they will require the facility benefits to be in place. So, yes, the facility benefits will be in before the expansion goes live.

- TSlothrop

This was copied from a thread asking about facility benifits, vehicle equipment terminals, and repair pads. A new Dev has decided to show his face in the Official Forums. What do ya' know....I guess they really are working on the content they promised us.

ghost

SecondRaven · 2003-08-19, 12:54 PM

Ok about the new Core Combat thing�.We do not need it this soon. Why should we divide the PS community for one, two why do we need more bugs in the sys and lastly I don�t feel like paying once again more money to PS. Ok on the rational side per say you do release the Core combat. You are going to make the VS not so unique, you are going to make half of the PS community stronger in that they will be able to use the expansion pack wep/vech. You think there are lasher/Jackhammers whining people now? Haha wait until you get the people who don�t have the expansion pack, they are going to whine about not having it and how the people that do have it have a adv over them. This is just foreshadowing. Ok to end this and making it sound like I�m not a 12 year old whining. I think Dev needs to think; think hard on putting out Core combat.

ThEOnLyOnE · 2003-08-19, 01:07 PM

we all really dont know how this expanison is going to be played out.. lets not knock the expanison.. and lets get more feed back from SOE on it... and then do what most of u do best and
COMPLAIN...

lolololol.. and if your going to bitch about the people who do have the expanison with all the new toys... fuck man.. go get the expanison then and maybe u can stop whinning like a little bitch..

(this is general not sent to specific person)

Ignore Me · 2003-08-19, 01:14 PM

People are always going to bitch and complain. I should make a timeline of everything that people cried about starting back to the Open Beta CDs that were delayed. Yeah! A timeline!

ghost

ThEOnLyOnE · 2003-08-19, 01:18 PM

your right..
i bet they die alot too...
im going to start a list.. of people who complain and play on the
servers that i play on.. ill make sure to add them to my buddy list..
and go out of my way to kill them when i see them...

LOL

Madcow · 2003-08-19, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by ThEOnLyOnE
we all really dont know how this expanison is going to be played out.. lets not knock the expanison.. and lets get more feed back from SOE on it... and then do what most of u do best and
COMPLAIN...

lolololol.. and if your going to bitch about the people who do have the expanison with all the new toys... fuck man.. go get the expanison then and maybe u can stop whinning like a little bitch..

(this is general not sent to specific person)

Not all of us have Mommy and Daddy buying whatever we want. In my case I have a pretty good job that allows my wife to stay at home with both my kids. I don't have tons of time to play games, so the time I get is fairly magnified. If I have a horrible bug-ridden session I want to string SOE up, if I have a flawless session I'm fairly happy.
Until my kids go to school and my wife goes back to work, disposable income is at a minimum. Being a responsible adult who actually follows a budget (boring idea to be sure, but something that everybody does eventually) I have a certain amount each month to spend on leisure activities. When (in my opinion) I'm overspending on one activity in which the results are not worth the amount that I'm shelling out, I'm forced to eliminate that activity. Simple enough? Your 'general' message was annoying and unfortunately was just a showcase of your age.

Happy lil Elf · 2003-08-19, 01:53 PM

Neat story. Very cool to have a parent stay home with the kids when it's possible. What exactly it has to do with you feeling you're not getting enough bang for your buck I'm not sure. Are you saying that because you can't afford the expansion it should be free? Or that because you can't afford it bitching about it should be ok?

I have a job where I have about $900 of disposable income a month, can waste it on whatever I want for the most part (although most of it gets saved since my MMOs tend to keep me entertained). What bearing does that have on this debate? About as much as you working while you wife stays home with the kids: None.

Madcow · 2003-08-19, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
Neat story. Very cool to have a parent stay home with the kids when it's possible. What exactly it has to do with you feeling you're not getting enough bang for your buck I'm not sure. Are you saying that because you can't afford the expansion it should be free? Or that because you can't afford it bitching about it should be ok?

I have a job where I have about $900 of disposable income a month, can waste it on whatever I want for the most part (although most of it gets saved since my MMOs tend to keep me entertained). What bearing does that have on this debate? About as much as you working while you wife stays home with the kids: None.

Thanks for reading, I wish the reading comprehension was a bit higher though. The point (and there was one) was that because of choices I have made in life (and they were my choices to be sure) I have to be a bit more careful with my disposable income then either a single person with $900 disposable income per month or some kid leeching off his folks. I can afford an expansion, and I can afford to continue paying the monthly fee. Unfortunately, paying for the expansion would also mean sacrificing something that month that I would also enjoy. Continuing to pay the monthly fee would mean not spending that money on something else (be it a game or movies or whatever). I was paying my monthly fee with no complaints as there was the idea that we were paying for content as well as support and hosting. I was getting antsy for new content and was already wavering about whether the game as it stands was worth the monthly charge. Now we see that they've been using the dev time to develop content for something additional, rather than the game we've been paying extra for content on all along. So then comes the choice. Do I reward their duplicity by actually spending extra money on an expansion coming out far too quickly which was developed on my dime and continue to also pay a monthly fee which supposedly includes content? Or do I vote with my consumer dollar elsewhere?

See, the point was actually pretty simple. I appreciate your try at belittling me but I honestly didn't expect much more from a computer game board.

ThEOnLyOnE · 2003-08-19, 02:48 PM

TO MADCOW:

EASY... easy.. u dont know me.. u know dick about me..
easy there.. Dad..

Im a Dad my self.. i dont live with Mommy or Daddy..
and i have a wife and a little girl.. and a good paying job..

your message was distrubing and was more of your sob story..
save it for those who care.. i dont..

o.. and your on my list pal..
well meet in the battlefield.. MoFo

Happy lil Elf · 2003-08-19, 03:05 PM

Thanks, Madcow, it was just as I thought.

Here it is in a nutshell for you. What you said had absolutely nothing to do with what you quoted. He was saying, albeit in a poor way, that complaining about this expansion before it comes out doesn't make a whole lot of sense. That you don't think you're getting enough for your money has nothing to do with that.

Was I belittling you? No. In fact, Mr. Reading Comprehension, you'll see I in fact complimented you on your choice of having a parent stay home. Obviously that causes you to have to make scrafices but I'm sure you already knew that. That you don't think you're getting enough for your money is fine, that's entirely up to you especially considering your circumstances. But if you don't think you're getting enough for your money, don't buy the expansion. Hell, cancel your subscription. It's that simple. It also has nothing to do with someone telling people to at least see what the expansion has to offer before complaining about it.

Lets try it this way. The quote you gave was a guy talking about people who were slamming the content of the expansion before it came out. You're irked that it's coming in an expansion and not free. You do see the difference in those arguments, right?

P.S. If you have such a low opinion of computer game boards and their occupants do me a favor and find somewhere else to play. I'm a little tired of seeing people try to play the "I'm smarter/better than you" game. Oh and please don't try and take the high an mighty road while trying to insult the boards at the same time. It's rather poor form.