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2003-09-04, 06:29 PM | [Ignore Me] #16 | ||
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Good lord, Elf. And to think not too long ago you were making statements about how smug I was.
You're right, though. I misinterpreted his initial post, overstated his argument for him as it were. Not that this actually changes any of my points about voting with the consumer dollar to voice displeasure (not purchasing the expansion certainly hurts Sony less than cancelling, but it still hurts). I'll let you gloss over those points if you need to, however. Companies spend billions of dollars trying to instill such brand loyalty. I will never cease to be amazed at the people who gladly bend over even when a company treats them poorly. I honestly hope Sony can pull this out, but so far I think they're doing a textbook job of how not to handle it. |
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2003-09-04, 07:17 PM | [Ignore Me] #17 | ||
Ok, Mad, I wasn't trying to come off as smug. I was more than a little annoyed by a few things when I wrote it though and after reading it yes, I did come of just a bit upitty there. You have my appologis for that. I just didn't know how else to get that point across because I had already gone through it twice. Again, I'm not trying to be smug, especially not with you.
No, I don't need to gloss over your consumer dollar argument. I simply don't refute it. Yes canceling of subscriptions, if done by enough people, will start to hit Sony. Will it change their polocies? Probably not but it is certainly worth a try if you feel strongly enough that things need to change. I've never been against people leaving the game if they feel it isn't going in a direction they like or they feel they aren't getting enough bang for their buck. It's their choice. Will I continue to argue against things I don't agree with? Absolutely. Number two it's definately not brand name loyalty. My opinion of SoE leaves a ton of room for inprovment. Something I've also stated elsewhere is I come from a pretty long MMO background, as I'm sure many others do. What impresses me about this game, or rather this dev team, in comparison to the other MMOs I've play/play is the amount of work that has gone into it in just three and a half months. That is what keeps me optomistic for the future and is one of the primary reasons I continue my subscription. Not because I have any loyalty for SoE, but because I honestly think if given time, and assuming they can make it through the idiocy that is SoE long enough to have that time, they can make this a great game rather than just a decent FPS.
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2003-09-04, 07:45 PM | [Ignore Me] #18 | |||||||
Oh goody, here we go again.
I've said many times I think the game should have been released sometime in August instead of May. MMOs being what they are, that didn't happen.
I'm aware of those things and taking into account the amount of work that has gone into the game in the last 3 and a half months I'm very optomistic that the Dev team can turn this into a great game in time, and so I continue my subscription.
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2003-09-05, 04:11 AM | [Ignore Me] #19 | ||
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Elf your missing the point by once again diving too deeply into somethign that was borderline metaphor to begin with. My point is when someone fails to hold up their end of a commitment, whether it is the guy who cheats me out of a hundred dollars at cards or the waiter who shorts me two bucks change on an italion soda, i still consider it the same crime. Varying degrees yes but still a crime, and therefore basis to terminate our relations. You can make whatever excuses for the dev team you wish but at the end of the day the facts are still the same. They are continuing to make promises they've shown no signs of keeping whjile steaming ahead with plans to get more money out of us, that's fine, the world economy thrives on gullible fat dumb and happy consumers. It will continue to do so until people wake up and maybe expect big business to hold itself accountable in that small business is.
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2003-09-05, 04:23 AM | [Ignore Me] #20 | ||
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Im sorry, but fixing bugs is something they should do on there own merit. I have to agree with Nimbus, they should be working on giving us the new content they promised.
And by new content, i mean, new vechicals, weapons, ground stuff etc, not bug fixes or balancing tweeks, as those are things they should and have to do regardless of any promises they made to us. Istead, they have spent a hugh amount of time and human resourse, not delivering on the promises for new free content, but creating a expansion pack with lots of new content that we have to pay for.... that sux!
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2003-09-05, 05:57 AM | [Ignore Me] #22 | |||
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So what actualy inflamed you so about my post, refresh my memory, you maintain that the dev team is working hard, I happen to doubt this, I'm not saying that what manpower that have allowcated is not working hard, however I believe that bug fixes are a given part of the product development cycle. I believe that any changes to the lasher pulsar etc are merely changing variables on the weapons tables, to add salt to that wound they always screw it up when it first goes live, hence all this buff, oh shit nerf, style game balancing. Bottom line their not keeping up on their promises, and propisng bug fixes as a reason just casts them in an even more pathetic light.
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2003-09-05, 02:11 PM | [Ignore Me] #23 | |||||||
What it comes down to is a difference of opinion on this I guess, Doppler. You don't think the Devs are working hard enough for your money, I do. We could, and if someone doesn't end it probably would, argue forever over that but I know you won't convince me and I'm sure I probably won't convince you. Not because I have some sort of obscure loyalty, to SoE or the Devs, but because I've seen evidence that the Devs want this game to be great and are working towards that goal.
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2003-09-06, 02:03 PM | [Ignore Me] #24 | ||
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I wish I had your faith elf, I really wish I did. I used to be really psyched about this game, truth be told I really am, youll get on for a few mins and it will be pure bliss, make you forget the crash bugs and all that other crap.
Truth be told sine I doubt Ill be giving up my planetside habit soon and since I know it will make me want to pull my hair out when others can do the expansion vehicles weapons etc and I can't I will most likely end up buying the stupid expansion. Do I think the SOE marketing department were temps hired from either the 5th ring of hell or Philip Morris? Yes most likely, I cant blame them for exploiting a bankable resource but man I just want my platoons and my heavy transport, is that too much to ask.
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