Dicepoint Sigs

[Biff]

Ok.. ignorant question, but how can the pixel size of 500x72 (36,000) eat up more bandwidth than 383X165 (63,195) (Hamma's sig)? I don't see the bandwidth being much of an argument. In fact the whole thread on the lounge with the pics of women must eat up a few gb!

I guess I run the risk of being kicked/banned or otherwise censored. Actually I honestly don't care who came first or what. I have seen numerous businesses go under due to the fact that management is not responsive to customer demands.

This goes for both sides.

[Hamma]

You know, after browsing your forums for 10mins I counted about 5 threads where people have asked you to lower the size, not just for PSU but for other forums they browse. It seems the problem here is you are not willing to change the code.

Edit: It's not bandwidth Biff, the issue is load time. As well as templates, it keeps everything in check for lower resolutions and it keeps the load time on the threads smaller.

[NoDice]

There is always democracy on my boards. I let my users decide on things I develop ratings or changes.

Since i'm here for the PS community at large and my users i'll let them decide.

[Hamma]

Censoring my posts is democracy eh?

Anyway, suit yourself. I think I know what they will decide, just understand there is no vote to change my requirements, they will remain the same.

[NoDice]

5? I think not. There are a few but with the exception of one guy they are all dealing with your board, hince why i reached out to you in email on the behalf of those people.

I checked your site as well as others and they all work fine at 800x600.

So in your world 65k loads faster than 16k?

[Ghryphen]

Yeah and they are all asking for smaller sigs.

[NoDice]

I was my post i deleted not yours. I have a right to retract my statement on you being an ass. But....

[Sputty]

Originally Posted by NoDice

I checked your site as well as others and they all work fine at 800x600.

So in your world 65k loads faster than 16k?

About your above posts. I notice a big difference in loading times on my school computers(crappy) when going through boards with larger sigs.
And, about 65K...
I thought the PSU max was 40K.
Personally, the only resizing I'd do, if I could, would be to reduce the max sig size horizontally

[Hamma]

It meets every req except its too wide, thats the only thing that would have to be changed. Shave off 100px he's done it before I saw the modified sigs so I know its possible

[Biohazzard56]

I kinda see both sides of this arguement

To Dice: How hard would it really be to shave off Weekly stats and put it in some seperate image.

To Hamma: Most of the major planetside players in the community all go to psu anyway and i dont think many 56k ers come to PSU.

Those are just two solutions even though i do agree with hamma.

[Happy lil Elf]

NoDice, your opinion does matter here because you do good work. However, Hamma appears to be taking a stand on this and it's one that's well within his rights to take. It appears if you refuse to change your sig sizes they will not be used here. It's as simple as that. Talking to your users will not matter. Voting will not matter. This is Hamma's house, if you don't like the rules feel free to play elsewhere.

What happened to you making smaller sigs? I seem to remember you saying you had no problem with making smaller sigs for people to use if they wanted to use them here. Did you simply change your mind? Did you recieve massive amounts of feedback begging you not to change them? Was there diolauge between you and Hamma prior to resorting to open insults?

I guess what I'm driving at is you used to seem like you were perfectly willing to work with Hamma on this and now appear to be saying "Screw you, change it because I said so". Obviously that sentiment isn't going to get you very far, especially when in the end you hold absolutely no power to change the rules.

[TheRagingGerbil]

I was using the small sigs prior to the dicepoint move...then they got broken I guess.

[Tritan]

I have an idea for no dice. Now i know you don't wanna spend supposed hours resizing the sig. So instead of resizing the current one why not cater to your customers by making a smaller version as well. A 2nd option to use if the larger is too big for a "certain forum"

If thats too hard then maybe Hamma.. you can change sigbots settings for 1-2 weeks and have readers post their feedback on loadtimes with the dicepoint sigs just to see if the load times are a huge issue. Couldn't hurt to try it out right?

Seems a lot of people here love the dice point sigs so one side needs to give in a little or meet half way for the "customers" We love those sigs and want to use them

Hope it gets resolved sometime soon. Thats just my 2cents.

[bryan25]

W000T! Is the shoot out over?

[Rbstr]

i was usigin a small dicepoint sig before the server moved why can't we use that one still?