AHH!!They nerfed MY FLAIL

[TheRagingGerbil]

This was a much needed nerf. The Flail was being used as another personal tank.

[Happy lil Elf]

Flail
With regard to Flail balance issues, we have made a few adjustments to the vehicle that should help bring it into balance.

1) Its armor has been reduced substantially to below tank-level.
2) Its shot capacitor has been reduced from 150 to 50.
3) The down angle on its turret has been decreased so there is now a large "under the guns" radius around it and infantry should have a much easier time getting close enough to assault it.

A nerf was definately needed. However it appears that SoE has once again, as is their custom, gone way the fuck overboard with the nerf. The armor reduciton is a good idea, although I think I'll test the severity of it tonight. The down angle reduction amkes sense although coupled with, and depending on the severity of, the armor reduction it may take things a bit far. No real problem with either of those, at least not until I have a chance to test them out.

The ammunition reduction, on the other hand, is completely uncalled for. Why make a vehicle that's already difficult to get ammo for even more of a pain in the ass? There was simply no need for this.

[Veteran]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you deploy the thing so that when deployed the nose is angled down a bit? Wouldn't this let you shoot the ground closer to you and kill things that move close in?

The Flail was designed to be an endgame piece for a very well organized unit, not a main battle tank.

Instead of griping, just learn to exploit its advantages and mitigate its weaknesses.

[Madcow]

Wasn't the flail the last thing many people were holding on to as a valid reason to purchase CC?

[Dekein]

It definitely needed something to keep it from being a one man assault tank.

Lower armor for sure, 2500 would be good. The gun depression is not that bad if you deploy it carefully and have support (Which it is designed to require).

The ammo change is too harsh though for a vehicle without a easy means of resupply. 100 would have been fine or even leaving it as it was. Perhaps they will make rearming AT similar to the ant by deploying in a warpgate and having it slowly charge.

It is certainly not 'useless' as all the whiners will now claim it to be. It is far closer to the type of vehicle it was designed as.

[Happy lil Elf]

Not whining here, hell I haven't even tried it since the change. Reducing the ammo on a vehicle that is already difficult to reload from 150 to 50 is assanine. I don't even drive a flail and I think it's assanine.

[bryan25]

Originally Posted by Happy lil' Elf

A nerf was definately needed. However it appears that SoE has once again, as is their custom, gone way the fuck overboard with the nerf. The armor reduciton is a good idea, although I think I'll test the severity of it tonight. The down angle reduction amkes sense although coupled with, and depending on the severity of, the armor reduction it may take things a bit far. No real problem with either of those, at least not until I have a chance to test them out.

The ammunition reduction, on the other hand, is completely uncalled for. Why make a vehicle that's already difficult to get ammo for even more of a pain in the ass? There was simply no need for this.

YA i totally agree with you..

[EarlyDawn]

Originally Posted by TheRagingGerbil

This was a much needed nerf. The Flail was being used as another personal tank.

Indeed.

[Hamma]

The ammo reduction is indeed a bit much.

[Flammey]

Realistic? WTF? This is a game. There's nothing realistic about it. The patch does not bother me. I have no problem fighting Flails before the patch, and now I'm going to have an easier time fighting them after. You boobies who wanted the Flail nerfed, well, your going to find out just how Worthless the Flail is going to become to your side now. Hope your happy that all your bitching and whining got you the change you wanted.

And don't use the "I pay $13 a month, I should be able to voice my opinions and have them heard." I pay $20 a month, and I don't make a fuss about my equipment as it is. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG. Only think I complain about is the game play, bugs, and random cheaters I find.

[Aen]

Bout time......

Realistic to what this is Ancient Vanu technology? They could have mabye put the gun damage down but no they had to kill the armor. Now some infantry can easily kill it and flail has no defense!!

The flail is supposed to be used at long, long distances. Distance is its main defense.

[Flammey]

I agree with you on the "It's meant to be a long distance weapon" arguement. After using it for 2 days I had to get rid of it. I found both no challenge to it, and no use for it. I got 300 grief in less than 2 minutes with it. The reason for that is that is that there was some sort of stupid bug going on that day where no one could see the sheild on the base, so all bullets that hit the opening stopped, there by blowing up, if it was explosive ammo. Plus there were 4 MAgriders trying to get in, and couldn't. They couldn't see the shield either. I shot twice before I realised it wasn't going through. BOOOOOM. all four Mag's blew up, with drivers and passengers. Instant 300 grief

[Doppler]

Flammey I highly recommend medication. Secondly if it is worthless to my empire I will get over it, at least it's not so powerfull now it majorly stomps on the dynamic of the battlefield.

[Veteran]

The Flail was being used as a heavy assault vehicle. What part of 'not being used as intended' is so difficult here? It was like a main battle tank on crack. A nerf was inevitable, and everyone who said it was out of line was dead on.

[Flammey]

Medication? You a doctor? Can you perscribe extremely powerful drugs? How about a perscription for Mary Jane?
Cheeba cheeba.

And no, I won't use it. I'll sell it for cash.